You make fair points Volodya :salute:. The problem is that the inconsistent and incomplete nature of the sources often makes it difficult to even make a good guess at the historical specifications. I would always prefer to have the most historical settings possible, but I will admit that the difference between 3.525 and 3.435 seconds is inconsequential :O:


Thanks for taking the time to test it :up:

Do we have any more "controversies" to settle? Anything else to double-check for flak and deck gun settings?

Just tested the deckgun tweaked with historical trav/elev speeds (which are a bit lesser extreme than sober's ones, by the way)... practically unusable. I haven't yet recovered from the seasickness :doh:

sometimes I have the vague feeling that you are making fun of me, товарищ :hmmm:
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no one of us has ever fired those guns. Numbers are our only chance to reproduce them as closely as possible, and to get the feeling of using a real WWII weapon ;)

...which by the way are just random numbers, invented by Voldya for making his arguments more "dramatic" :03: :O:

no, as far as I am concerned. At least no controversies relative to their specs :up:

lesser than Sober's ones? :o IIRC Sober's elevation speed is 0.5, isn't it?

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:03: sometimes.. a little bit.. :O:

not at all.. I took/saw these/similar values somewhere on the previous pages..

I said lesser extreme, i.e. 1.5 deg/s. This is relative to elevation speed. As for traverse speed, sober kept the stock setting (it is 35 deg/s). In this case the historical value used by me (1.5 deg/s, same as elevation) is much more extreme.

Another thing I have noticed is that after changing max gun range, max range elevation angle, and max/min elevation angles, the calibration of the range scale of deckgun's gunsight, gets messed up. I will look for that scale within game grahics files and I will try to recaliber it while you are testing the other settings :hmmm:

:-?

man, how do you think Kriegsmarine scientist and engineers refined U-boat armements, making them one of the most feared war weapon ever? Even at tenth of second can make te difference for the greater of our beloved Nation :smug:
Little detail, many of the settings that we have been working on, are actually aimed to make those guns worst... :rolleyes: :O:

Is it impossible to track a target at 1.5 deg/sec? How about with AI firing?

oops.. my bad habit to read inattentively and sometimes miss keywords.. :oops:

very hard: even in calm seas the gun swings up and down with predictable effects on the accuracy of its aim, and laying it for following moving targets is even harder. Waiting for the right timing (i.e. when the gan is better aligned) before firing is very important.

This is relative to manning the gun manually. I didn't test the new settings with AI gunners yet but, provided that they are programmed to wait for the best aim before firing (I just hope that they won't start firing randomly as soon as the gun is loaded), we can suppose that their rate of fire will be heavily affected by weather state. :sunny:

don't mention it: it is also my habit :rolleyes: :O:

but sometimes they are.. unfortunately.. :nope:

I know.. :yep: :O:

well, let's see what happens. For sure the deckgun won't be any longer an easy shortcut for getting tonnage, especially during mid-late war :yep:

misunderstandings are the salt of life :know:

:sign_yeah:

almost finished updating/checking my tweaks. Seems that today will be an... historical day :O:

There is still unfinished stuff (especially assigned shells), but what we have got ready so far is good enough for you to start your tests. I will upload the files (including the list of changes) after dinner.

P.S: do you want me to add to the pack the tweaks required for testing the twin M42 (broken) FlaK? As long as you don't walk close to it, AI should be able to man and fire it ;)

will wait..

yes, please.. I will look at this gun more closer..

currently working to port its settings to EUF. I had originally done my changes over stock files (italian version)... give me half an hour please :)

better I make it by myself.. there are many changes in my EUF version.. just send me your changed files.. :yep: