Yeah right. If the one that wants to leave has undersigned treaties that go on for a - if limited - time, he has to fulfill those. Otherwise it is a break of treaties, and being regarded as this, internationally.

Why doesn't England let Ireland go then, if that is what you call slavery and imperialism? "Treating people as property of other people the latter can abuse" and you reall mean that? How many wine have you drunk?
England has plundered and enslaved a good part of the world for centuries, not that they would call a spade a spade of course.
I fail to see how the EU is "enslaving" the UK, this is ridiculous. Unless you happen to be as awful as Farage.

Your comparisons are so overblown and full of yourself and self-rightousness it is breathtaking. Get some professional help.

The biggest part 0of the UK - England - voted to get out of the EU. And all have to follow, like in this joke. England, Scotland and Ireland walked into a bar. The all had to quit because England wanted to".

Partnership, well. This decade-long cherry picking had to stop somewhere, and i am almost happy that it finally happens. "Anything else than partnership is dictatorship?" :haha: No, sorry. This is dumbest black-and-white-thinking. Then England has been a dictator decades-long while joining the EU.
And i can see how altruistic and well-meaning, and professional the english government has been and is, with or without the EU. This is laughable, and ridiculous.

Ah? Why? So what has the EU to do with it? What about England? What about the WTO?

Exactly. And while a lot of nations internationally and the EU look at England they do not actually do much, but watch a drama unfold, watch how they are hurting themselves. But this is not the fault of the EU, or Botswana.

Yeah right. If the one that wants to leave has undersigned treaties that go on for a - if limited - time, he has to fulfill those. Otherwise it is a break of treaties, and being regarded as this, internationally


........fine with that, but one can demand precision. but this has nothing to do with the bachstop problem.



Why doesn't England let Ireland go then, if that is what you call slavery and imperialism? "Treating people as property of other people the latter can abuse" and you reall mean that?

,......... Jim said the northern Irish by majority want to stay in and with the UK. They also want no hard border.Like the parliament, they contradict themselves by wanting two things that cannot be had together. THE UK AS FAR AS I KNOW HAS NOT PRESSED THEM TO STAY IN THE UK. London allowed a scottish referendum as well on independence, mind you. Neither the Gibraltarians nor the Falklanders are forced to stay either. They want to stay. Like apparently the northern Irish.



I fail to see how the EU is "enslaving" the UK, this is ridiculous. Unless you happen to be as awful as Farage.
,............ What I said, stands - and how i said it. no people must live for the sake of other people, expecting them to do that is claiming property rights over the other, and that is slavery by defininion for sure.


Your comparisons are so overblown and full of yourself and self-rightousness it is breathtaking. Get some professional help.
........ I take it from such personal attacks that you ran out of arguments.


The biggest part 0of the UK - England - voted to get out of the EU. And all have to follow, like in this joke. England, Scotland and Ireland walked into a bar. The all had to quit because England wanted to".
......... the uk is kind of a union of four, and they all agreed to decide in this union by majority votes. Maybe you do not like majority votes if they do not dekiver your preferred outcom







Partnership, well. This decade-long cherry picking had to stop somewhere, and i am almost happy that it finally happens. "Anything else than partnership is dictatorship?" :haha: No, sorry.
..........Try to correctly quote and understand what i actually said. you already add your own spin to my words again. cheap.




This is dumbest black-and-white-thinking. Then England has been a dictator decades-long while joining the EU.
And i can see how altruistic and well-meaning, and professional the english government has been and is, with or without the EU. This is laughable, and ridiculous.
........ whoever feels adressed by this reply, may or may not answer. it wont be me, however, since i feel not adressed.



Ah? Why? So what has the EU to do with it? What about England? What about the WTO?
.....???



Exactly. And while a lot of nations internationally and the EU look at England they do not actually do much, but watch a drama unfold, watch how they are hurting themselves. But this is not the fault of the EU, or Botswana.
....... i nowhere ever said that somebody else is responsible for the selfcontradicting behaviour of parliament. i identified the parliament never having wanted brexit but needing to deal with the referebdum as cause for their weaseling. i said when they are serious with brexit they necessarily can only go for hard brexit, and i explained why that is so.


do you actually read what i say before you type a "reply" ?

Looking at the recent posts above reminds me of the discord that currently exists here in the UK on this subject matter.

What I believe we can all agree on is that this whole sorry state of affairs is a right mess.

I'm not about laying the blame on either or both sides of the divide but one thing is for certain, Parliament are failing the people of the UK and there are strong rumours that the all powerful 1922 Committee are considering ways to change the Tory Party internal rules in an effort to oust PM May long before the December deadline she currently has as a result of an earlier leadership confidence vote.

Who would replace her and what would change as a result...God only knows :hmmm:

THEY LIED TO US, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THE....:/\\chop

Didn't they voted on this and rejected it. :hmmm:

I have no interest going down the Irish road so they get the result they want. We already had it so shut up and go away.

I'd like to give them my gastro!! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sick/barfing.gif

If you're to be taken seriously this is a reminder of how dangerous the far right can and have become.

There is a rather appropriate saying I learned in Holland whilst residing there but sadly, the internet has an abundance of competent text translators :03:

I had to put that since I had a really bad day of gastro, both ends!! :oops::doh:

And now the inevitable consequences begin.

Chopped as in removed from office for telling lies, they set it in law we would leave the EU on March 29th and we have not left. This disgraceful lot have lost their rights to sit in Westminster and yet these traitors remain. Democracy is dead.

https://news.sky.com/story/12-000-pi...-home-11699520

Sod off that thing spy's on you 24 hours a day. Bloody government any excuse to spy on you by saying this is quick and makes your life easy.

I believe the simple answer is...NO

I knew that even before the talks started, Labour's one and only aim is too get a general election. Is the press in this country so bloody thick they do not see it.:hmmm:

Yes

THE STEED TIMES


Main stream press are bloody thick but are they thick as politicians?


We ask the big question and the monkeys at London Zoo replied yes!


STEED TIMES recommends Jim's flat cap news and Reece big knockers political magazine.

I'm flattered STEED!! WOW, I'm famous!! :D

More famous than that rock you have. :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48021730

I don't see Change UK getting any where and I suspect most if not all will loose their seats at the next general election. Followed by them falling out the media spot light.

A bit like the Tories and Labour perhaps.