so lets crunch some numbers, there are an estimated 11 million illegal aliens living in the USA (2012 figures).
if 14% voted (probably too high), that is around 1.5 million votes; if 5 % voted (probably closer to the real figure according to the study, i.e. 6.8% in 2008), that is still over 500K votes; |
Theresa May has indicated that some parts of UK intel sharing with the US could be cut if the Donald goes ahead with his torture plans.
Oh, and the Doomsday clock just got moved 30 seconds forward, so that's fun! :yeah: |
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I think this voter fraud is getting everyone confused. to tell the truth I would not be surprised if in fact there were 2-3 million fraudulent votes. that's 2.1% of the total ballots cast.
This news story implies that there was a "scheme" by the DNC to effect the popular vote. I think the more likely explanation is that since there are 435 voting districts, the local politicos tried to effect the outcome of whatever hot button topic was foremost in some of those districts. and that's where I think you'll find most if not all the voter fraud this election cycle. |
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Perhaps I should clarify my position on this voter fraud thing. I am not against an investigation, quite the opposite. I am also quite sure that there has been fraud, considering the somewhat messy voting system you guys have. How big, that remains to be seen, and no doubt there will be fraudulent votes on both sides. What I have been wondering about is Trump's own "3-5 million undocumented immigrants" (I think that's what he said?) voting and thus losing him the popular vote claim, and whether he is willing to give it a rest if the investigation result doesn't support his claim. If his investigation finds 1 million votes that should not count, great, but that's still 2 million too few to support his repeated claim on why he lost the popular vote. |
I tracked down how he gets to 3 million or rather 2.8 million. This is the relevant extract from the Richman study:
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...hman-et-al.pdf Now the study is far from definitive, as someone who often works with statistics, their method where you take a small sample size and extrapolate to a much larger group can easily lead to a gross over- or under- representation. The only thing the study really shows is that there probably is an issue, but no one knows how big it is. |
interesting note: that 2.8 million number is the same number of votes that Clinton won with. 2,864,974 :hmmm:
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The study is from 2008, so that's 8+ years ago, so maybe this investigation sheds some light to today's situation. |
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One thing interesting about what Trump has said about illegal voting is that a lot of illegal votes came in because people are registered to vote in 2 states. He better check the people that work for him then,lol
"With Kushner, The Washington Post has now identified four Trump family members or top administration appointees who were registered in two states during last fall's election. The others are chief White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon; Tiffany Trump, the president's youngest daughter; and Treasury Secretary nominee Steven Mnuchin, as first reported by CNN." http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...pvk?li=BBnb7Kz Wonder if Trumps personal phone is secure yet. And what is going on with Conway and Bannon using private email accounts through the RNC server? Trump wants to send in the Feds if Chicago can't get the shootings under control there, what's he going to do in Chicago, declare Martial Law and take away their guns!!!!????!!!!!!!!!! |
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Ps. You do realise I am from Finland, the country, not Finland, MI? I have no horse in this race, just my hunger for the facts, which I try to satiate as best as I can. |
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I had so much fun playing that. So much fun. It was great. |
Somebody writes on Twitter: ...................................... Too cowardly?! Me?!?
"Trump is far too cowardly ............................................... I will teach him! to press the red button!" http://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/fe...2-format10.jpg source: Der Tagesspiegel |
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