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Schroeder 01-24-16 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2376523)
Two good readings for German readers. Or better: for anybody understanding German.

The first is a psychoanalysts' analysis of Merkel, which pretty much covers my own both private and my former semi-professional psychological view of her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/0...hp_ref=germany

That's how I see it as well. I never saw a strong leader in her. Her only achievement was to get rid of all competition over the years and making the CDU a one woman show. She's been unquestioned for too long and does not accept criticism anymore.:/\\!!

kraznyi_oktjabr 01-25-16 03:22 AM

Waht comes to smugglers I don't see point in gun slinging unless there are payment troubles or some other issues. Immigrants share information very quickly and openly in social media. If this kind of stuff was really going on, in my opinion we would already have heard about it. It feels implausible that this kind of excellent "poor immigrants" story would have been ignored by news media.

Onkel Neal 01-25-16 07:35 AM

Denmark is shaking down the immigrants. Man, can you imagine is Trump had suggested this? It would have exploded this thread :haha:

http://news.yahoo.com/denmarks-plan-...135655255.html

Betonov 01-25-16 10:54 AM

Not that I was sure that such things occured, but if an almost honest guy like me can think of reasons why shoving migrants on leaky boats at gunpoint would be an economicaly sound decision, some depraved mind down there would also

tomfon 01-25-16 11:58 AM

Another thing is that we don't really know how the whole thing is played out on the Turkish shores. Yeah, we have watched on TV refugees arriving at the Greek islands, dead bodies of children lying on the beach, ordinary people trying to help and so on but what about the other side?

Jimbuna 01-25-16 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2376635)

It's a plan, not the worst plan out there, but it's timing is poor and it's just going to fuel the fires of xenophobia in Europe...as if they needed any fuel. :dead:

You could well be right but I simply fail to understand why adults are taking such chances with children. If they were escaping direct from a warzone yes but not the relative safety of Turkey (especially when you compare the two).

Betonov 01-25-16 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2376778)
You could well be right but I simply fail to understand why adults are taking such chances with children. If they were escaping direct from a warzone yes but not the relative safety of Turkey (especially when you compare the two).

I wouldn't be surprised if Sultan Erdogan the moronic is pushing them forward.

Schroeder 01-25-16 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2376781)
I wouldn't be surprised if Sultan Erdogan the moronic is pushing them forward.

After receiving our money to hold them back....:shifty:

Jimbuna 01-25-16 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2376781)
I wouldn't be surprised if Sultan Erdogan the moronic is pushing them forward.

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2376784)
After receiving our money to hold them back....:shifty:

Rgr that...on both counts.

Betonov 01-25-16 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2376784)
After receiving our money to hold them back....:shifty:

Let's just wire the money directly to daesh and stop feeding the midlle men

mapuc 01-25-16 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2376635)
Well, Denmark isn't the most powerful nation in the world which tends to shape western policy and attitudes. :O:

It's a plan, not the worst plan out there, but it's timing is poor and it's just going to fuel the fires of xenophobia in Europe...as if they needed any fuel. :dead:

True Denmark is definitely not a superpower.

I think you need little background to understand why this changes. Let me tell you about a Danish citizens who seek economical help by the authorities.

If this Danish person, let say he is between 30 and 40 years of age, are looking for cash assistance- He shall give the authorities axess the every bank account he has, what he have earned a.s.o a.s.o

If he has a fortune greater than the permitted 10 000 Dkr, he can not get help from the authorities-he must use the amount above these 10.000 Dkr first. (E.g he has in all 25000 Dkr-so he must use these 15000 Dkr for rent, food a.s.o before he can seek help again)

Until now, all refugees and immigrants been exempt from this. Although authorities were able to see that certain entries refugees and immigrants came with values that exceeded 10,000 Dkr =

Not in paper money, but in jewelry. The police/authorities will not take wedding rings or jewelry which has a sentimental value for the owner.

Markus

Jimbuna 01-25-16 04:28 PM

Probably wrong but I can't imagine many of them having large amounts of surplus cash. Most are probably using lifelong savings simply buying a place on the boat/raft or whatever.

Onkel Neal 01-27-16 06:05 PM

Yes, yes, all these things make sense and seem reasonable. My point was: if Trump had said this, there would have been howling and comparisons to the Third Reich. Am I wrong?:O:

Dan D 01-27-16 06:30 PM

What goes around comes around. If Trump becomes US President I will be ok with that and will respect that decision. But until then, I am an alpha male, too. I can shout, too.

The Trump family has immigrated from Germany.

The Danish poposal is nuts imo.

mapuc 01-28-16 03:16 PM

Latest news from Sweden. The authorities has estimated that about 80.000 refugees has to leave Sweden.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...asylum-seekers

In Finland the authorities expect about 20.000 has to leave the country.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eur...-idUKKCN0V61Z1

Markus


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