When voting results mean nothing anymore and votings get repeated endlessly to secure the outcome just anyone, someone demands, than the very system, so-to-speak its "structural integrity", has desintegrated already.



If this were a ship, it already would be somewhere between the surface and the bottom of the sea.



Its not caused by Brexit, however, but is a fundamental design flaw that a conflict-heavy event like Brexit just has managed to reveal for the first time ever.


BTW, why not voting the way May wants to have it - and afterwards by her own logic demand that more votings are being held - now with the goal to get the result that her opponents want to see? Of course, like she does now, the others must be allowed to do as well: repeating it as often as needed to get the result wanted. Which then gives May the right to start another series of votings. And on and on it goes, giving the political elite a completely new way to justify its mere existence: "without us, there would be no votings anymore - see, you need us, therefore!"


There should be a international, binding law - amongst other significant changes to current systems - that says that any voting in parliaments and in public referendums around the world can be repeated not before lets say 10 or even 15, 20 years have passed.



The more exceptions from rules get defined, the less meaning a "rule" has, and the greater the invitation is to bypass it. Its corruption, clear and simple.

Parliament are soon to be given updated advice from the Attorney General regarding the Backstop but I doubt it will make any difference because he has already advised the only way out of that would be to claim a fundamental change in circumstances therefore bringing about the breaking of an international treaty.

Can you imagine what matters will be like if this mess isn't sorted out before the EU elections in June or July?......a boat load of British MEP's most of whom will be elected on EU sceptical tickets with the intent purpose of causing as much hassle as possible over in Brussels :nope:

Well there go folks the government's amendment goes through. We are not leaving on March 29th

Democracy is dead, Parliment is a dictatorship time for the revolution and take back what we have lost.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-mps-...-deal-11664834

London-Brussel co-produced sitcom second to none. Now with announced intention for a complete new season being produced. Many episodes with more of the same! Don't change the recipe! I cant stop watching it!

I can, in fact I'm tempted to take a 'if i ignore all news on brexit, will I actually notice any of its effects in my day to day life?' test.
I guess I'll notice when I try to move to Spain in a few years with my blue passport :D - if that even happens in the end.

I hope the English people will show same determination as they have shown so many times, if they have to vote again in a second referendum.

I hope the outcome of this eventually referendum will be 65-70 % for Brexit.

(Yes I'm against EU as it is now)

Markus

Well good luck Sky, I don't watch it every day it would make me sick watching those pigs who have taken away democracy and gave us a dictatorship.

Polls suggest it probably would be about the same or a slightly higher % in favour of Brexit, but polls are not to be trusted, and anyway - it comes down to Turn out, some hard brexiteers might be too angry to vote in a second referendum since they already made their voices heard the first time, where as hard remainers would come out in force in the hope they could finally correct what they always saw as a mistake.

One of the amenment votes today had a second reforendrum in it and was rejected.

Good, because it would be a complete waste of time.

A freind of mind will be on a Brexit march on March 29th I think he is wasting his time. Democracy has fallen today I find that far more important and very troubling.

So if the parliament overrule the result of this referendum..by halting the Brexit and in the end throw it into the bin.

What happens then….if this happens ?(which I hope doesn't)

Markus

You can just see it now.....remainers win and brexiters cry foul and insist on best of three :doh:

If it isn't sorted by end of June Markus, sit back and watch the fun unfold at the EU elections.

Thanks David Cameron and where are you? Oh in your shed writing your book. Let this be a lesson for all and stop voting for these swine who care not about you.

And if there are EU elections in the UK you can get stuffed and will not vote.

Perhaps you won't but plenty of UKIP and anti-EU will.

Wast of time all they will do is sit around shouting out Boo as if that will do anything. I voted once in a EU election then came to the conclusion most were only in it for the money. Well if people think it will do good carry on but it will not change a thing.

Only time will tell.

Well done Emma, I never thought you had it in you.

It was only a few months ago you touched my hand in Whiteleas and asked me what it would take for me to rejoin the party and my answer remains unchanged "Not until Steptoe has gone".

Adding to Jim's reply, a deepening of the rifts in society would happen, a polarization, like you witness in the US over Trump. Already now many families are deeply split in their poltical opinions, correspondents report. A growing anger at the polticla caste and at the EU. And then there is Ireland again.