^ Yes.

Add Germany to that faction of "not wantin to let you go due to money" as well, and the other netto payers. Without the UK, the net receivers can be voted down by netto receivers every time. Which means due to the isnane structure and design of the EU the netto receovers can than dimninate and rle how netto payer havce to pay for the netto receiversd in the future - and the payers no longer can block that with a veto.

Go figure.

I am surprised how little this gets comunicated in our media over here, I think I saw it beign mentioned by not even ever ythird of our major newspapers here. Although it is pure dynamite.

Thus, the Brexit will cost Germany much, much, much more than just the imminent costs calculated and communicated in the TV shows so far. MUCH MUCH more. Its not possible to give a real number, but no doubt we talk about many factors - and even higher factors the more desperate the state of the FIAT money crisis becomes.



Another chance for the Germans to learn this lesson. Though I would not bet money on that this time they finally will. All chances before have been rejected by them. This German disease I call hysterical romanticissm, you know.

Here's a old gem how about France Germany and the UK form a new block and leave the EU to sink.

What do you mean - France, and the UK...?


Ah. "British humour."


:D

It's something from a few years ago some expert said.

And the UK owes 2 trillion (Euro of course). What's the point? This is pathetic.

Oh and by the way: There is nobody who keeps the UK from walking away. It is the UK that still wants to negotiate (though the deal is done and dusted and has been on the table for some time now).

A side note: All my British colleagues in the meantime have applied for European citizenship. Two will become Dutch, one will become German and one will become Belgian (dear me, good beer though). That's four high profile programmers / modelers lost and it's only the beginning.

I reckon she's wasting her time....the game of 'chicken' still has 51 1/2 days to run.

We all are in debt with one another borrowing money and in some cases buying debt.

https://worlddebtclocks.com/#world


Moving on...
Donald Tusk makes a stinging comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47143135

That'll be Poland then Donald? :hmmm:

Nice one Nigel :up:

I suspect Brussels is completely apoplectic at the possibility of the UK blazing a trail of self-determination, unilateral economic prosperity and fundamental sovereignty that they (the EU) are compelled to make leaving as contentious and difficult as possible to dissuade other countries from thinking along the same lines.

It is pretty clear (at least to me) where the EU wishes to be in 20 years time. There are no scheduled stops on that runaway train destined for absolutism. No time like the present to jump off before it becomes even more difficult to do so.

Stay the course Britain. If you cave in now for the sake of political expediency and appearances, you'll be sorry.

Good luck. Still lots of time between now and March 29th for the self serving politicos to muck it up.

Is it true that the good Friday agreement allows a referendum in North Ireland whetehr or nnot to unitr with the republic of Ireland? If true, this might be a direction things might shift if there is a hard Brexit - to prevent a new wave of violence about Ireland. London might not be happy, but as I always say: the local population of a reigon has any right there can be, always and naturally, do say they do not want any longer be governed by somebody else.



I think if this is possible, the EU will not be shy to bend rules and motivate Ireland, both Irelands, to go right this way. Even more punishing of the stubborn Brits. And thus very welcomed in Brussel. Might also pave the way for such referendums in Scotland again, and Wales? The eu no doubt will lure them with all money needed, even if it violates its own rules.


The British reply, or retaliation if you wish, could be to run an economic policy of radical low tax regime that will confront the continent's socialist tax tyrannies head on. A radical tax oasis is one of the best argument for free business to change headquarters. The EU doe snto want naitons to compete with each other. So here is right one of the eU's weak points.

Somehow Britain will need to run an economy after a hard Brexit. Liberalization of the fiscal regimes might be the only realistic option to clal back the producing industries that have lefdt Britain in the past 30 years. Its also the way to defend the financial centre market of London.

Drop taxes, and most dramatically so, Britain. Wanting to weasel through with what right now there is, imo will not work. The competition is not kind and understanding. And especially China has no understanding for such nonsense. They are too powerful by now as if they would need to listen to European laments and concerns.


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Brussel shot a terrible own goal today by forbidding Siemens and Alstrom to fusion, forming a - still inferior! - front to the globally advancing train and rail industry of China, namely CNNC. Quite retarded a decision, the Chinese now can take out both competitors one by one, so to speak. Childsplay, I predict. As good if not better high speed technology, for much lesser money, and selling this pack into third world countries by offering them attractive credit conditions - that later form the basis to push them deep into dependency form china when their victims learned that they were invioted to bite off more than thy could chew. Biggest looser: Europe. CNNC would still have been superior if the two biggest European train makers would have fused. Brussel needlessly helped the Chinese a lot here, and turned an already critical game into a lost one.



I recently read an old joke form the late 70s. A Chinese chicken tells a Western pig: let us do a joint venture, let us do a ham-and-egg joint venture. I give the eggs, and you bring the ham.

The day is getting closer to where UK leave EU.

It will also be the day, if you read all these doomsdays prediction, where UK sinks into Hades.

So before I forget it.

It have been a real pleasure, to have known my English friends

Markus

Jim's handing out free beer as we go down HMS UK due to hit the EU Iceberg in 50 odd days time it's been a blast. :)

https://www.necoichi.com/files/topics/3858_ext_01_0.jpg
What do you think of this whole Brexit deal cat? . . . EU!!

^ @Reece lol

Usually i hold myself back a bit, but after all this here i think it is time to call a spade a spade.


@ Jim i do not think those propaganda posters you posted have much to do with reality.

Regarding Farage about Tusk, always heartwarming to see when an arrogant bully like Farage is astonished others can hit back like him. How unfair! Racist!! (just of all Farage, laughing my a.. off) Blah!!! Unfortunately Tusk does not quite possess the poisonous rhethorics of a Farage, but it was refreshing to see for once.


After all this Tusk meant it in good humour, something that brexiters seem to have forgotten since 2016.
How often have Farage and and other UK politicians together with tabloids like the SUN, the Express etc. insulted the EU and its 27 other nations of being Nazis, Soviets, arrogant and bullies creating a europen superstate, without shame and (even worse) without ever getting the appropriate answer?

Allthose making those accusations (oviously without having a clue about the democratic processes within the EU) should decide whether the EU is falling down and collapsing, or becoming the Nazi superstate (yes Rees Mogg and Duncan Smith said that), or a new kingdom, with a Napoleon, or Hitler, or Juncker becoming the absolutist ruler eating babies for breakfast, or an Isis Caliphate, or the prison of the Soviet Union, or WHATEVER propaganda can think of to insult those bloody foreigners.

"quislings, collaborators, traitors – language that pitches the EU not as a club run by some of Britain’s closest allies, but a hostile force at war with England."
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...d-we-re-abuser

Brexiteers liken European leaders to Nazis and Soviets, but the minute they answer back, they cross the line?
The Sun, The Express and those other Murdoch papers influenced by Russia have become the new low level of coverage and propaganda, and i am a bit concerned that some here and just of all Jim echoes that.


After two years of negotiations back and forth, with England trying to cherry-pick again (and the EU succumbing to a lot of it) the negotiated deal has been destroyed by those who proposed it, with two years wasted, all beginning from scratch and no one knowing how long all this will last.
No wonder it all gets on everybody's nerves.


(OT does Farage really think that George Soros the jew is after him? It seems Farage has come a long way, now he's building up the far right "Movement" in Europe, with help of Alex Jones and together with Steve Bannon.
"Hungarian-born investor and philanthropist, who after the fall of communism, funded democracy-building institutions and movements across eastern Europe. He became a hate figure to the Russian government, who launched a propaganda campaign portraying him as a meddling Jewish banker."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-questions)

Meanwhile...down on the ranch.

https://i.imgur.com/SbFbRSu.jpg

I continue to believe she is wasting her breath....far too early in this game of 'chicken' should there be any change at all.

Steptoe sick of being out of the limelight just has to raise his head from under his rock :nope:

^ ^ Its worth to remind of this read that August has linked to two days ago. It fits like "the fist on the eye" (German proverb).

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...px6f8Xibf-nlfA

Most predictable and seeing as Parliament have refused to accept Mays Brexit deal and a majority have already voted against a no deal exit.

What now? :doh:

Thats where I lost interest again.