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Jimbuna 01-30-19 06:29 AM

A good night for the PM and common sense. Now we see some hope of an eventual deal because that is surely the best outcome.

I've started following Lord Digby Jones because IMHO he is one of the few who seem level headed and knowledgeable enough.

https://twitter.com/Digbylj?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I also noticed Corbyn has eventually agreed to discuss the issue with the PM putting far too much emphasis on the one vote the government lost and is actually non enforceable :doh:

STEED 01-30-19 08:03 AM

MayBot has only kicked the can down the road for two weeks.

Jimbuna 01-30-19 08:21 AM

I'm with Lord Digby Jones on this, a gace saving compromise will probably be conjured up at the last minute.

The biggest stumbling block will be getting it through Parliament.

Jimbuna 01-30-19 11:00 AM

Juncker tells MEPs: "Yesterday's vote has further increased the risk of a disorderly exit of the UK."

Juncker continues: "It's important the EU remains calm, united and determined, as it has done throughout this process."

https://news.sky.com/story/live-ther...talks-11622177

STEED 01-30-19 11:58 AM

Let's be honest here DC gave us the referendum and by a narrow margin the UK voted to leave, it was us who rocked the boat so why should the EU compromise with the UK. The government should had taken that into account but they did not, they believed we could get our cake and eat it.

The whole thing was a mess right from the start and the voter will not stand up to this shower at Westminster so we have to swallow the bitter pill. Even if there are riots after a no deal Brexit the end result it will not affect the elite behind there high walls.

I think we would have been better off planning the safe guarding of the UK when the mighty EU falls and be ready for that day.

Jimbuna 01-31-19 07:34 AM

O ye, of little faith....there will probably be a last minute deal of some sorts but if that fails remember you were the one who highligted the fact the British Army was stocking up on live ammunition :hmmm:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=9031

Jimbuna 01-31-19 09:08 AM

Quote:

An MP's jail term for lying to police over a speeding ticket is being reviewed after a complaint it was unduly lenient.

Peterborough MP Fiona Onasanya had denied being behind the wheel when her car was spotted being driven at 41mph in a 30mph zone, in July 2017.

She was convicted at the Old Bailey of perverting the course of justice and jailed for three months on Tuesday.

The Attorney General's Office confirmed it was reviewing the case.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-47071120
I'm wondering if she will stand down or continue drawing her salary :hmmm:

The latter I suspect.

Jimbuna 01-31-19 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2588636)
I just finished watching Question Time with Jim's pet laugh Diane Abbott who clearly was out to lunch and her complaints against Fiona Bruce and Question Time holds no water and the BBC rejected her claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sBa_adCw4

STEED 01-31-19 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2589278)
O ye, of little faith....there will probably be a last minute deal of some sorts but if that fails remember you were the one who highligted the fact the British Army was stocking up on live ammunition :hmmm:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=9031

OK lets get down and dirty and say there is no deal Brexit it could be possible the extreme left and right wing could go off like fire crackers but I really can not see live ammo being used. I can not see the UK going up in smoke but the division between remain and leave will be like walking on thin ice. I would not put it pass the EU to take the hit and hold its ground.

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2589292)
I'm wondering if she will stand down or continue drawing her salary :hmmm:

The latter I suspect.

She has been booted out of Labour and remains as a independent MP, the rules are clear and she is in her rights. About time the rules were changed in my view.

STEED 01-31-19 02:49 PM

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MPs' half-term break cancelled over fears about Brexit
https://news.sky.com/story/mps-half-...fears-11623352

So now they think oh we need to get on with it. Talk about late in the day with this lot of wet paper bags they are.

STEED 02-01-19 05:39 AM

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Brexit vote: Is cash for constituencies wrong?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47080553
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Jeremy Corbyn warns his MPs not to back Brexit deal in exchange for constituency cash https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...-cash-11623669
Roll up MayBot wants you're vote...Coruption at Westminster as MP's hit the toillet's for the funny white powder.



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Brexit: Unilever stockpiles Ben & Jerry's and Magnum ice creamshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47071874
That will make Jim happy but what about pot noodle?



SKYNEWS - German Minister states the EU has no solutions to the "Backstop" issue.

Jimbuna 02-01-19 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2589325)
OK lets get down and dirty and say there is no deal Brexit it could be possible the extreme left and right wing could go off like fire crackers but I really can not see live ammo being used. I can not see the UK going up in smoke but the division between remain and leave will be like walking on thin ice. I would not put it pass the EU to take the hit and hold its ground.



Put a hold on that stockpiling of ammunition exercise.

Quote:

UK armed forces 'face £7bn equipment funding black hole'https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47082922

Jimbuna 02-01-19 06:03 AM

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was forced to take a car to a talk about bus service cuts after the bus he was waiting for failed to show up.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-47076653
:o









:har:

Catfish 02-01-19 06:14 AM

^ i guess it was not Corbyn being responsible for bus cuts, but the ruling government? A conspiracy to let him stand in the rain.. :hmmm::O:

He sure promises to better things, if he's only being elected..

Jimbuna 02-01-19 06:30 AM

^ He sure does but his plans would lead to higher taxation and government borrowing.

STEED 02-01-19 03:34 PM

I read a snippet online about Germany telling the EU to drop the "Backstop" issue from The Telegraph. Can Sky and Cat throw anymore light on this.

Mr Quatro 02-01-19 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2589325)
OK lets get down and dirty and say there is no deal Brexit it could be possible the extreme left and right wing could go off like fire crackers but I really can not see live ammo being used. I can not see the UK going up in smoke but the division between remain and leave will be like walking on thin ice. I would not put it pass the EU to take the hit and hold its ground.

I've been trying to understand this Brexit deal gone bad and my first thoughts are that the fear sounds a lot like the y2k problem back in the year 2000. I know it's not the same, but just seems like it. Lots of fear about what big business will do and now small business are starting to worry.

Is there any chance that the people's will in the vote to exit EU will be overturned?

Surely they won't take a chance to hold another vote :o

Jimbuna 02-02-19 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2589503)
I've been trying to understand this Brexit deal gone bad and my first thoughts are that the fear sounds a lot like the y2k problem back in the year 2000. I know it's not the same, but just seems like it. Lots of fear about what big business will do and now small business are starting to worry.

Is there any chance that the people's will in the vote to exit EU will be overturned?

Surely they won't take a chance to hold another vote :o

Yeah I was involved in that y2k silliness but as to your question....I think anything is possible really.

Jimbuna 02-02-19 06:48 AM

An example of things to come perhaps?

Quote:

The UK has objected to Gibraltar being described as a "colony" in European Union legislation allowing UK nationals to travel to the EU after Brexit.

The EU proposed allowing visa-free travel for Britons in November.

The Spanish government has since insisted a footnote be added describing Gibraltar as a "colony" and referring to "controversy" over its status.

The UK's ambassador to the EU, Sir Tim Barrow, objected to it at a meeting in Brussels earlier.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47087439

Skybird 02-02-19 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2589489)
I read a snippet online about Germany telling the EU to drop the "Backstop" issue from The Telegraph. Can Sky and Cat throw anymore light on this.

I heard nothing, but I am not the media mastermonitor of the continent. But my money is on "unfounded rumour", last time the German government said something on it that was confirmed they recommended to remain hard, German industry leaders also want the EU to stay hard (to mount pressure to force Britain to stay in the EU). Confirmed seems to be that Spain drums the drums again over Gibraltar, however.


What is confirmed is that the EU member states now said they want to allow British citizens travel access into the EU without Visa, even if there is no deal. However, the EU cannot save itself from putting in another provocation: it formally discriminates between British citizens from the UK, and from the "British colony" Gibraltar.


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