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Jimbuna 01-18-19 06:06 AM

Corbyn is doing himself no favours by refusing to talk with May. He insists she must drop a No Deal Brexit before he will engage but that simply tells the EU to dig in because the deal they have offered and refuse to shift on would eventually be the one settled upon.

I noticed Diane Abbott, you know, the one who would become Home Secretary in the event of a Labour Government and the true socialist who sent her child to a private school appeared on Question Time last night and managed to make a complete fool of herself judging by the reactions she got from the audience.

It pains me to see the depths my former party have sunk to and even more so when I take into consideration the fact that the Tories more or less have a free hand in how the country is governed.

Jimbuna 01-18-19 06:49 AM

What an absolute mess :nope:

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Corbyn could face string of resignations if he backs 'people's vote' https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...cid=mailsignout
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New plan to stop no deal: Now Labour MP Yvette Cooper tables draft laws to let MP seize control of Brexit - as May faces mass resignations if she tries to stop them https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...hem/ar-BBSpt6p

CDR DPH 01-18-19 08:21 AM

It's only a mess because the politicians seem to have a free hand to make it one. MP's seizing control from the sitting government and ignoring the public's orders, in the Navy that is called mutiny.

It's all about power and control, the politicians want to keep it, and the people have lost it. The problems presented by Brexit really have very little to do with Brexit and everything to do with a broken and unaccountable political system populated by sycophantic bullies.

Jimbuna 01-18-19 11:26 AM

Yep, I reckon there is some weight in what you're saying :yep:

CDR DPH 01-18-19 05:13 PM

Australian TV speaks the truth on Brexit
 
Sorry can't get the embedded link to work on subsim. Right click copy & paste I guess if interested in watching it.


Some people get it, even if they are Australian. LOL!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s9eHb3WUqg&feature=youtu.be

STEED 01-18-19 05:53 PM

I have said it for years politician's no longer work for us the voter and it stands out now like some one ramming dynamite up your rear end. And yet the voter is still fast asleep and will remain asleep when that fuse is lit.

STOP VOTING FOR THIS SHOWER THEY DON'T DESERVE OUR VOTES!

Reece 01-18-19 08:06 PM

Gee, your politicians are nearly as bad as Australia's!! :timeout:

They're not public servants anymore, they are public masters (or dictators)!!

CDR DPH 01-18-19 08:21 PM

It's not very often that an opportunity of such national importance comes around. The politicians are distracted determining a new pecking order at the trough.

Borrow a play from the yellow vests and mobilize Britons to come out and demand the return of their sovereignty and nothing less. Lots of unemployed hooligans these days lounging around watching the tv, put them to work generating news content to force the proper agenda on the politicians.

If you sit back and just watch, there is a good chance you'll lose your country, again.

Jimbuna 01-19-19 06:27 AM

https://i.imgur.com/kxJ3jRx.jpg

Jimbuna 01-19-19 06:31 AM

Meanwhile on a more serious note, Speaker Bercow could be denied a peerage for what many in Parliament consider to be his bias toward Labour plus the fact he admitted he voted to remain in the referendum and has faced repeated allegations regarding bullying.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46913477

Catfish 01-19-19 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CDR DPH (Post 2587259)


"And that was a totally fair and balanced party political broadcast by the foreign Rupert Murdoch owned Sky News party"


:rotfl2:

Jimbuna 01-19-19 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2587307)

"And that was a totally fair and balanced party political broadcast by the foreign Rupert Murdoch owned Sky News party"


:rotfl2:

So some would have us all believe :)

STEED 01-19-19 07:22 AM

^Nice joke jim. :haha:

Prince Philip should take Westminster for a spin.


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Nigel Farage to 'stand again as an MEP' as he warns of second Brexit referendum
https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-far...endum-11610551

Sorry Nigel if you do that you are a bloody hypocrite.

Jimbuna 01-19-19 10:30 AM

In fairness to him he is the only one that has delivered thus far on what he promised and that was to bring about a referendum.

Skybird 01-19-19 03:00 PM

Some clueless Germans have written a letter to Britain.

https://translate.google.de/translat..._korrespondenz

Sentimental, clueless and very German drivel. When I read it earlier, I felt almost ashamed. Well, almost. I may carry a German passport, but that by now is just a formality anymore, so in the end, I have not written that letter, nor was it written in my name.

Do not expect that AKK, the successor to Merkel, means a new policy. She is even worse than Merkel, and even more left and I call it "teuto-moralistic". And at least as technocratical, teflonesque, and ice-cold.

Catfish 01-19-19 03:52 PM

^ From what the letter should have said:
"We want you back and we realize that it [the EU] needs to be reformed. Help us reform it !!!!"

That's basically what the whole thing should be about.

Skybird 01-19-19 04:45 PM

Reform impossible by design and intention. Thus it must be destroyed, then Europe must be cleared of the rubble, and then we must build a new, purely economically- oriented trade zone - AND NOTHING MORE. To hell with all that cultural reeducation and wet wannabe-a-superstate-dream of fat cats who think a single country is too small a stage for their stellar ego to shine on.



The more space is given as a playground to the corrupt, the mentally derranged, the criminal and the ruthlessly egoist narcissists, the more corruption, the more insanity, the more crime and the more narcissim and egoism you breed and helkp to bring to power.


You want the squaring of the circle, and you ignore human nature, ignore reality. It will not work your way, never. It cannot, and never could from all beginning on.

Jimbuna 01-20-19 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2587399)
^ From what the letter should have said:
"We want you back and we realize that it [the EU] needs to be reformed. Help us reform it !!!!"

That's basically what the whole thing should be about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2587406)
Reform impossible by design and intention. Thus it must be destroyed, then Europe must be cleared of the rubble, and then we must build a new, purely economically- oriented trade zone - AND NOTHING MORE. To hell with all that cultural reeducation and wet wannabe-a-superstate-dream of fat cats who think a single country is too small a stage for their stellar ego to shine on.



The more space is given as a playground to the corrupt, the mentally derranged, the criminal and the ruthlessly egoist narcissists, the more corruption, the more insanity, the more crime and the more narcissim and egoism you breed and helkp to bring to power.


You want the squaring of the circle, and you ignore human nature, ignore reality. It will not work your way, never. It cannot, and never could from all beginning on.

I find it interesting to see both sides of the argument regarding the situation we are currently facing from a German perspective and IMHO you both make valid points :salute:

Jimbuna 01-20-19 06:40 AM

Meanwhile, Downing Street warns MPs not to block Brexit.

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The new bill is being presented by Labour's Yvette Cooper, the Conservative former Education Secretary Nicky Morgan, and Liberal Democrat MP Norman Lamb, among others.

Another group led by Dominic Grieve wishes to pause Brexit by extending Article 50. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46936405
Two backbenchers who are willing to undermine the government and democracy by forcing changes to protocols that have existed for a great many years :nope:

Jimbuna 01-21-19 05:03 AM

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May set to reveal plan to ditch backstop to win over Brexit rebels https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout
A potentially wise move ig she is hoping to swing her backbenchers and the DUP onside.

Now it is Brussels who will hopefully soften their position.


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