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les green01 09-25-22 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2829215)
Which category goes this under ?

A strategy I've never heard of before



https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...05233536098304

Markus

we did the same thing in Vietnam so much for a certain weapons

Rockstar 09-25-22 11:02 AM

Let me see your war face.

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The Russian president’s nuclear warnings are “a matter that we have to take deadly seriously,” White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CBS on Sunday.

“We have communicated directly, privately at very high levels to the Kremlin that any use of nuclear weapons will be met with catastrophic consequences for Russia, that the United States and our allies will respond decisively, and we have been clear and specific about what that will entail,”

mapuc 09-25-22 11:02 AM

^^ It's new to me.. You learn something each day.

FYI.. Tactical Nukes-There isn't exactly a given strength on a nuke who have been used on the battlefield. That's the only reason to why they are called tactical

Used against civilians or cities well then it ain't a tactical nuke.

Markus

Dargo 09-25-22 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2829224)
^^ It's new to me.. You learn something each day.

FYI.. Tactical Nukes-There isn't exactly a given strength on a nuke who have been used on the battlefield. That's the only reason to why they are called tactical

Used against civilians or cities well then it ain't a tactical nuke.

Markus

Russia does not make a difference between civilian or military targets there is no exact definition of the "tactical" nuclear weapon, generally smaller in explosive power gravity bombs, short-range missiles, artillery shells, land mines, depth charges, and torpedoes.

Dargo 09-25-22 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2829215)
Which category goes this under ?

A strategy I've never heard of before



https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...05233536098304

Markus

category corruption was too expected, Russians are born for that.

mapuc 09-25-22 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2829227)
Russia does not make a difference between civilian or military targets there is no exact definition of the "tactical" nuclear weapon, generally smaller in explosive power gravity bombs, short-range missiles, artillery shells, land mines, depth charges, and torpedoes.

I remembered wrong-Sorry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon

Markus

Dargo 09-25-22 01:19 PM

Russian defenses are collapsing north and west of Lyman, a key city in northern Donetsk, which is one of the gateways to the northern part of the Luhansk region. Russian sources report that some Russian forces are retreating from Lyman to avoid being surrounded. https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/s...58455630745601

Dargo 09-25-22 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2829230)

With small, they mean Hiroshima type of destruction, but before that Russia will do a test if we see a test we know he is trying to nuke Ukraine, and it can not happen because factions in the Kremlin or China stops him they will certainly after that kinda test.

Skybird 09-25-22 03:11 PM

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=6572

This is still the best summary and most precise assessment on all one needs to talk about when thinking "nukes" that I have heard about nukes and ukraine war so far. I see nothing to add or substract from that. Thats why I ignore Russian threats on the use of nukes, and would even carry on to dleievr wepaons to Ukraine even if Russia uses smaller nukes.

The onyl worry is not whether Ukraine is psychologically able to handle the impact of a nuke (they will not submit to it), but what the use of nukes would do to the decision making processes in European capitals.

Catfish 09-25-22 03:41 PM

Just to remind some who this a$$hole Jordan Peterson really is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnxxELn00gk

Peterson is basically talking sh!t all the time while selling it as "being honest" lmao
Surely boosts his tv presence.

August 09-25-22 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2829245)
Just to remind some who this a$$hole Jordan Peterson really is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnxxELn00gk


What in particular has enraged you?

Rockstar 09-25-22 04:11 PM

What part of that video do you disagree with? Is it just the part which made the headline; it was naive to think Russia could lose? Because he did go on to explain quite well IMO what he meant by that. And I can agree with his explanation too so I guess that makes me an a$$hole as well. :up: :haha:

He certainly makes more sense than those German far left socialist groups like AfD backing Putin and Die Linke saying the Bucha massacre was faked.

Catfish 09-25-22 04:26 PM

Because standing up against Russia is not about economics alone, simple.
It is about being against something being obviously wrong, 'political' if you will, but also including sheer hate against an aggressor.

So you think "we" cannot win an economical war against Russia?
You think we cannot win a military war against Russia?
I tell you what, bury your head and chime in with Putin.

Commander Wallace 09-25-22 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2829246)
What in particular has enraged you?


I think what Catfish doesn't like and I certainly agree with Catfish is that Jordan Petersen believes Russia is unbeatable. Jordan believes that Europe has to have Russian oil. Jordan believes that the Ukraine can't possibly win even though the Ukraine have shown incredible resolve.

I tend not to believe " self styled experts " and for good reason. They have been shown to be wrong again and again. Jordan just tends to make a number of assumptions the same as Putin himself has. Assumptions such as these have led to an ugly war. For the record, Jordan Petersen is allegedly a Psychologist. I'm not saying he isn't, by the way. Jordan Petersen is not a military man. My suggestion is if he wants to weigh in on military mattes that he is clueless about and has limited knowledge and understanding of, then Jordan should not only serve some time in uniform but do so while his country is at war. Then he can come back and tell us of his " vast experiences and insight " in war.

My opinion for what it's worth is for the Ukraine to continue to bravely battle as it has been and let the chips fall where they may.

August 09-25-22 05:20 PM

The guy is entitled to his opinion. Agree or disagree, that doesn't make him an ******* no matter how you spell it.


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