http://video.foxnews.com/v/234160133...tcmp=obnetwork
Just sayin......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2...d-robber-video
Just sayin....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/01...est=latestnews
Now thats sayin.... or is that more telling

Bull. A meteor crashing into your house is just one of those crazy accidents. A sinkhole swallowing your car is one of those crazy accidents. Failing to supervise a child that's just barely not a toddler with a loaded firearm is not a crazy accident.

Agree 100%. It's negligence pure and simple.

"Well Regulated" according to the meaning when it was written is "proficient". Part of being proficient with a firearm is keeping it under control at all times.

So you think proficiency tests should be mandatory in keeping with the 2nd.
Good idea August, maybe they could award nice little proficiency certificates to people who are proficient with firearms, maybe call them firearms certificates, though of course there would have to be some sort of registration for these awards to make sure people don't just make their own fake paperwork.

If said person is not proficient do they take the firearm away? :hmmm:

I imagine it would be something like the penalties for driving a car without a license.

The best form of gun control arrived at my house this Monday.

From my basement, to your browser:
http://www.ducimus.net/temp/gunsafe_001.JPG

The amount of money spent on this safe, I could have easily bought myself a nice rifle, or two handguns. Instead however, I spent that money on a safe.


Now in life, there are several things, that certain select individuals should not be allowed to own or do because their level of stupidity puts others in danger. Some individuals should not own dog, because they neglect them. Other individuals, should not be allowed to drive a car, because their a danger to everyone around them. And while everyone has the right, and that right I would fight vigorously for, some individuals should not be allowed to own guns - because their F'ing idiots or do not take the responsibility that comes with ownership seriously.

Give you an example:
This last Sunday, the wife and I were at our local range getting some practice with our handguns. I was at the stall, focusing on the target. My wife who had already gone through her ammo, was behind me picking up my brass since we reload them. There's another couple in there. Some middle aged folks. The husband was obviously getting his wife to try out various handguns to see which one she liked best. Now, I didn't see this, but my wife did. The husband asked something like "how do you like that one?" I'm guessing from excitement, she spins around, GUN IN HAND, muzzle sweeps my wife - with her finger STILL ON THE TRIGGER. and says, "Oh I like this one a lot more!".

After that, my wife was like "Hun, we should go, lets save the rest of the ammo for later". I didnt see any of this, so i was along the lines of "yeah sure, no harm in saving". we packed up and left. She explained this too me in the car, and I was pissed.

- I was pissed that stupid idiot muzzle swept my wife with what we can only assume was a loaded gun with her finger on the trigger.

- I was pissed at that jackass husband who CLEARLY did not properly put in the "classroom time" training his wife before ever stepping foot in a firing range.

- I was pissed that I didn't see this. Had i saw it, i probably would have ripped them a new one.

I don't blame the gun, I blame the individuals who were holding it. On the range, SAFETY IS EVERYONES RESPONSIBLITY, and when i was first teaching my wife, I made damn sure that my wife, knew exactly what she was doing, before we even set foot on a range. My inlaws, whom i've also schooled in all seriousness, refer to me as "Mr Safety" - a label I am quite proud of.

Now back to the best form of gun control: A safe. Why?
1.) Keeps kids grubby mitts off.
2.) One of the top 5 stolen items in home burglaries is.. you guessed it - GUNS! The likelyhood that one of our firearms will end up on the blackmarket and used in a crime is reduced considerably by storing them in a safe.


Personally, i recommend an electronic lock, so you can change the combination anytime you want. Both my wife and I, as kids, knew where our fathers kept the key to the gun safe or cabinet. Since the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, we've already solved that delimna.

Anyway, the second amendment reiterates our fundamental and natural rights to self defense. But with that right, comes responsibility , and it is incumbent upon every person who chooses to exercise that right and own a firearm to get the proper education and training. It is not only your responsibility, it us your duty as a citizen. If you cannot be responsible, and take it seriously, then you, as an individual, probably shouldn't own one.








And since I know someones going to ask, no there's not much in the safe at the moment.
http://www.ducimus.net/temp/gunsafe_002.JPG

It's a good call, but in the event of a home break in, how do you work it? Do you have a pistol in a more easy to access location, or is it all in the safe?

No criticisms intended, just curious...and no, I'm not casing the house either. :03:

As a joke, Ill answer your question with this Glock Handgun commercial, even though I own a Beretta and not a Glock.

R. Lee Ermy is always great. Here's an old one in a similar vein from our very own Utah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3HlbgYQLE0

Aha, didn't realise they made them that small. Handy, literally.
And, of course, good old Hickok has a vid on it too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1lPReo50uY

Good to see that this has been thought of, tbh, things like this should be provided with firearms purchases although no amount of safety provided to people for free or otherwise is going to stop those who are determined to be dumb.

Free rock with every purchase! :har:

Real men use Walther PPKs :yep:

This is how I gun control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=poSyC-UcgZg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4...scoresheet.jpg

(My first IDPA Classifier)

Who is more infantile in that shooting incident with the 5 year old? The child - or the adults?

Anyhow, if adults are clever enough to give a 4 year old (he got the rifle one year before, I read in German articles) a functional rifle as a present, then they should also agree to now throw the full weight of the law onto the boy and lock him away for the coming decades. I mean if a 12 year old some years ago got lifelong for having stolen something to eat for the third time, then this 5 year old monster really should be made regretting what he did as well, don't you think?

Selling toy packages "My first rifle" for children rifles dedicated to kids. That is pathological, and mentally disturbed. :nope: :nope: :nope: Let them come of age, and then , when they are ripe by mind and character, train them with the real things, where one considers that to be necessary.

This story again illustrates this insane fetish that weapons serve as in American culture. Where the sober mindset that sees them as a tool designed for very specialized purposes exclusively is missing, selling weapons should be forbidden. Churches give bibles away for free or at very low subsidized prices over here. I would not be surprised if somebody some day tells me that the NRA also runs projects like that, and gives away firearms for kids for free, or at subsidized, very low prices.

"Takes more than combat gear to make a man,
takes more than a rifle or a gun..."

I remembered seeing the beginning of that one before sometime in the past, but I didn't remember how it ended, and i wasn't expecting the ending. Thanks for a great laugh. That was hilarious.

Yeah there's quite a few of those smaller hand safes on the market. Some work by scanning and remembering your fingerprint others by a combo.


Yeah Hickok makes some good videos. Of all the makers of gun vids on youtube, Hickok is the most down to earth. He used to be a sheriff's reserve deputy i believe.

What is included in ALL firearm purchases is a California gun lock, regardless if the gun was purchased in California or not. Looks something like this:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....unlocks-04.jpg

In long guns, it's used to lock the breech open so the firearm in question can't be cycled. They aren't meant as a safety device so much as a means of legal transport, the idea being to make it so the firearm cannot be readily used. These locks are cheap, and aren't really much more then an annoyance if you have to use them, although they will keep the firearm inert to small children, and i did lock up all my firearms with this lock for grins and giggles before getting a safe. But it won't stop any child old enough to know what a set of bolt cutters is for.


Yeah, I've used one. Can't say I was impressed. They're really more of a concealed carry pistol. I went to the range with my brother in law, a die hard James bond fan, and we rented one. He kept calling it "The James bond gun", and was all too terribly excited to shoot it. Sad to say, he wasn't impressed either, actually, he was disappointed. After all the movie hype, he expected more.


Nice!

EDIT:

As to the recent news of the 5 year old accidently shooting his 2 year old sister, I have to agree that the kid was ENTIRELY too young for a .22 rifle. My father started me out with a BB gun, at age 9 or so. I didn't even touch a .22 until after I had learned with a bb gun.

So you are in favour of firearm regulation then:hmmm:

Found a couple vids i thought were hilarious.

This guy, really hate's glock's.
I Hate Glocks: Part 1
I Hate Glocks: Part 2