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I-25 01-17-10 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01 (Post 1217651)

just to be sure you know that this is the I-152

also on that I-52 3d model the hull is amazing o.O but the tower seems off to me. to squarish looking.

also the I-52 had 2 deck type99 double mounts AA guns right behind the tower and as far as i know this was the only fullsize japanese sub with AA's mounted on the deck

miner1436 01-18-10 11:41 AM

Are the limber holes on the I-52 correct? I would expect them to be more like the Junsen B class.

keltos01 01-18-10 12:30 PM

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5746/i52andmir.gif

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1773/conningtower1.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3900/i52deck.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9...4a7fa579ef.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7057/i52today.jpg


http://www.operationrisingsun.com/main.html

http://edgeoftheearthvp.com/picture.html

limber holes :

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3...403f869aa8.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner1436 (Post 1239127)
Are the limber holes on the I-52 correct? I would expect them to be more like the Junsen B class.

Yes indeed but I think there was only one RL picture taken, maybe there are some on the I-52 sub exploration mission

wish I had high resolution pictures of this sub...

keltos

I-25 01-18-10 04:07 PM

i think miner is right about the limber holes. they should go back down


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5746/i52andmir.gif

here you can kind of see the curve in the limberholes were it goes back down.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3948/i52.jpg

the whole gun splash deflector was never on that class of sub was never completed with a forward deck gun.

heres a better layout (except the bow seems a bit off)

http://www.operationrisingsun.com/I-52planII.jpg



James Dziadulewicz's 3d model is excellent in terms of skill but it suffers from multiple sources...
He must of came across pictures of the I-152 when it was still named the I-52 and mixed features of them both. thats where he whole deckgun and splash guard come from, i see this a lot because most people dont understand the whole IJN renumbering sequence

Quote:

On Christmas Eve the subs were ordered to shell selected U.S. cities and lighthouses. After expending all of their 5.5-inch shells, they were to retire to Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands.


I also have read that as the war progressed, Japanese subs were hindered by the US breaking of their naval codes and a bad habit of shelling the enemy coast at the end of their patrol so they could claim having fired upon enemy soil. These two details allowed the US to intercept the subs on their return course.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smar...er_offline.gif http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/quote.gif
the Xmas shelling thing was canceled at the last min.
and only on 3 occasions did they bombard the US coast always under orders.
the I-17 an oil field in santa barbara
the I-25 at Ft. steven in oregon
and the I-26 Pt. Estevan light house at puget sound

(srry to the mods for a huge pic)

Wolfpack721 01-21-10 05:37 PM

Hopes and an offer
 
Hi Peabody!

I hope I will receive your extension pack of these Japanese missions. (I hope in a total campaign...)
I can offer all my help. I'm not a programmer, I can't help with software tips or something similar... I'm just a user. But I can help with historical details, because I am a modeler and a submarine fanatic. :salute:
My e-mail adress: atiraptor@vipmail.hu
Yours sincerely:

Atilla

(In SH sims: Atilex Guyon)

keltos01 01-22-10 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack721 (Post 1242547)
Hi Peabody!

I hope I will receive your extension pack of these Japanese missions. (I hope in a total campaign...)
I can offer all my help. I'm not a programmer, I can't help with software tips or something similar... I'm just a user. But I can help with historical details, because I am a modeler and a submarine fanatic. :salute:
My e-mail adress: atiraptor@vipmail.hu
Yours sincerely:

Atilla

(In SH sims: Atilex Guyon)

thank you and Welcome to Subsim ! :yeah:

keltos

keltos01 01-22-10 03:36 PM

found a World War 2 Japanese Submarine Ship's Clock Seikosha on ebay :

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6...arineclock.jpg

I used it to replace the german cloack still ingame.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1051/ijnclock2.jpg

keltos

keltos01 01-29-10 02:29 PM

Sen Taka Fast Attack Boat
 
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2108/sentaka.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7642/sentaka3.jpg

crash diving after shooting all 4 tubes !

model : fair_weather
implementation : keltos


keltos

keltos01 02-01-10 05:56 PM

New items :

Type 88 periscope view improved by Hitman and Peabody

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/948/c2ijnscope.jpg

Upper and lower torpedo rooms for the Type C2 submarine :



Crew screen :

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9...torproomsc.jpg

Damage screen :

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/17/torploadoutc2.jpg

Loadout screen :

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/17/torploadoutc2.jpg

]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6...ntswj9comp.jpg

Quarters Electrical engine Diesel Engine Command Room/diving stations Quarters Bow torpedo room

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3821/i47.jpg

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...t%20S-01-1.pdf

this is the setup on a Jyunsen B, I didn't have good enough a blueprint and legend so I couldn't figure out the rest of the stuff, but IJN subs were based on roughly the same layout
adding a stern torpedo room on some not on others, and of course the two bow rooms for subs with 8 bow tubes (easier to load I guess).

there was an aft quarters and two bow ones, not represented ingame..

so we actually are missing areas that can be damaged and that help with the overal flotation of the boat

there is something on the blueprint aft of the stern quarters, some kind of machinery ?



I'm starting to get that IJN feel !


keltos

keltos01 02-04-10 12:11 PM

Sen Toku
 
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/1528/sentoku.jpg

two bow torpedo rooms as should be ! :DL

keltos

Bubblehead1980 02-04-10 04:30 PM

great work! cant wait to play the IJN side one of these days

keltos01 02-05-10 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1258697)
great work! cant wait to play the IJN side one of these days

:D

keltos

keltos01 02-07-10 08:05 AM

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9...iscopedata.jpg


http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...t%20S-01-7.pdf


So it seems the actual US periscope view with the azimuth might be mistaken !!!!

Keltos

aanker 02-11-10 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01 (Post 1223667)
Undisclosed portion of the Navy

Ko Hyoteki attack movie

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5110/53812469.jpg


http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2200/smallsub.jpg

......

Pearl Harbor after attack ?


Ko Hyoteki periscope - binocular

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_0Xe...eature=related

another japanese sub movie ! in training ?


same quality as Gochin

keltos

Nice project keltos! (and spellbinding thread )

海軍 未公開部分 - "Unpublished portion of the Navy" - (this google translate firefox extension really works! ;-)

Anyway, I recognize these and the youtube clip from a documentary I saw that described them as from a wartime Japanese propaganda movie. The documentary went on to say that this film was showing the spacious interiors of the mini-subs, the Japanese film version (using models) of the Pearl Harbor attack, and submarine duty, when in reality of course the interiors were much more compact.

Art

keltos01 02-12-10 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker (Post 1264872)
Nice project keltos! (and spellbinding thread )
:D:D

Anyway, I recognize these and the youtube clip from a documentary I saw that described them as from a wartime Japanese propaganda movie. The documentary went on to say that this film was showing the spacious interiors of the mini-subs, the Japanese film version (using models) of the Pearl Harbor attack, and submarine duty, when in reality of course the interiors were much more compact.

Art

would you happen to know the name of the documentary ? thanks for the info btw ! and glad :D you like our thread !

keltos


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