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STEED 05-22-17 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2485959)
Anyone not yet registered in the UK has until midnight tonight to do so.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39994892

Yes the young will make a mad dash to register and come the big day most will not vote then go screaming into the night while some others will say..What more I had to vote, yea right my pint and chips come first.

STEED 05-22-17 11:45 AM

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Green Party manifesto outlines plans for four-day week
http://news.sky.com/story/green-part...-week-10889120


I may go hippy on the big day. :|\\ :haha:

STEED 05-22-17 12:08 PM

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How should politicians reconnect with voters?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40000449




How about trying to work for us for a change. :yep:

Catfish 05-23-17 01:44 AM

^ working for the people, i'm sure most politicians already say so, only that they behave a bit different. "They" in power only want to make it appear as if power was closer to the people, not to really act like it.

"Both Labour and the Liberal Democrats are promising a constitutional convention on ideas for a more federalised country and the Conservatives say they are committed to "ensuring that power sits closer to the people of the United Kingdom than ever before".

Really, decentralising London and physically (!) scattering ministries all over the country will bring more power to the people? People are not that easily fooled.
And, a federalised country? I thought this was why the EU was rejected.

"Money that comes back from the EU after Brexit will, they say, be put into a UK Shared Prosperity Fund designed to reduce inequalities between communities across the four nations. Although Whitehall will still have the final say, there is a promise to consult widely including with the devolved administrations."

"They say", well. Interesting, this is exactly what the EU has done and does all the time, helping smaller communities and projects that would not see help by their own government for lack of funding money. Not to forget defending rights and values against the "greater good" of local governments. I do not think that any of the four countries of the UK will be better off regarding local and infrastructure help, after wrexit ;)

Eichhörnchen 05-23-17 03:36 AM

How to vote? I have no inclinations to any party except maybe the Greens and their support for the idea of the National Wage and I don't normally get into the political threads on the forum, but in my (uneducated) view we've got a stark choice: (a) Jeremy Corbyn (who's said plenty of things I couldn't agree with) and his plans to SPEND UP on the NHS, education, social care and mental health; this might see him run out of cash and borrow the Nation in a financial pit... then (b) Theresa May, who will likely take OUR our pension guarantees, social welfare (i.e. disability benefits), OUR houses (social care in old age) and dump EACH of us lower income types into our OWN personal financial pit. No difficult choice for me.

Catfish 05-23-17 03:55 AM

Of course I have no stake in this matter. I understand Jim B. for his being against Corbyn for the troubled past, i can understand how one can be against or for May, depending on p.o.v. Still both 'strong' candidates are much better than someone like Trump, whoever gets through in the end.

imho it depends on whether you vote "strategically", so to speak give the one the vote that has a real chance, and who suits you better (if only a tiny bit), or vote with your real idea, or ideal. Like .. UKIP :O:
Ok i guess i'll better stay out of here –

MGR1 05-23-17 06:23 AM

No electioneering today, for obvious reasons.

SNP manifesto was to be unveiled, but has been put on hold until further notice.

Mike.

STEED 05-23-17 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen (Post 2486126)
How to vote? I have no inclinations to any party except maybe the Greens and their support for the idea of the National Wage and I don't normally get into the political threads on the forum, but in my (uneducated) view we've got a stark choice: (a) Jeremy Corbyn (who's said plenty of things I couldn't agree with) and his plans to SPEND UP on the NHS, education, social care and mental health; this might see him run out of cash and borrow the Nation in a financial pit... then (b) Theresa May, who will likely take OUR our pension guarantees, social welfare (i.e. disability benefits), OUR houses (social care in old age) and dump EACH of us lower income types into our OWN personal financial pit. No difficult choice for me.

Eichhörnchen it comes down to who is going to slap you in the face the less and how much they are going to rob you.


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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2486156)
No electioneering today, for obvious reasons.

SNP manifesto was to be unveiled, but has been put on hold until further notice.

Mike.

Probably the week end or early next week a low key event in the light of Manchester.

ikalugin 05-23-17 07:48 PM

So Conservatives are now set to win in a landslide and impose all the internet censorship that they would like?

Catfish 05-24-17 01:37 AM

The United Pingdom.

Jimbuna 05-24-17 06:58 AM

So UKIP decide not to be party to the current agreed position regarding the terrorist attack and the election campaign.

I reckon this decision will only damage UKIP even more so than they already are.

Quote:

UKIP leader Paul Nuttall says he is set to resume election campaigning in the wake of the Manchester terror attack.
Explaining his decision to launch his party's manifesto on Thursday, Mr Nuttall said: "We cannot be cowed or allow our life to be undermined by those who wish to do us harm."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40026416

STEED 05-24-17 01:23 PM

UKIP is a dead duck at this election so his thinking is so we loose a few more votes so what. Question is like Labour can they recover enough in five years well as it stands for both i would say no.

MGR1 05-24-17 03:12 PM

I can see Nuttal's point - either you carry on as before or you let the terrorists force you into changing your behaviour.

It's a tricky balancing act.

Mike.

Jimbuna 05-25-17 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2486427)
UKIP is a dead duck at this election so his thinking is so we loose a few more votes so what. Question is like Labour can they recover enough in five years well as it stands for both i would say no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2486449)
I can see Nuttal's point - either you carry on as before or you let the terrorists force you into changing your behaviour.

It's a tricky balancing act.

Mike.

I agree with all of the above :yep:

STEED 05-25-17 04:56 PM

I had Labour banging on my door the other day and choosing too ignore my NO COLD CALLERS sign. Lucky for them i was busy and noted their departure though my gate from the bathroom. Lots of Labour and LibDem leaflets rec'd, none from the Tories and Greens so far.


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