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Nippelspanner 06-09-14 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2214936)
I know I'm not unique but I'd really be interested in finding out what really happened and where the plane is.

I start to wonder if we will ever know...

Skybird 06-09-14 10:22 AM

A British or American book just released claims that the airliner was shot down - possibly by accident - during a joint Thai-American military exercise, and that the search was intentionally diverted to the South-West to cover it.

A worker on an oil rig also has seen, so he claims, the plane going down, confirming that woman on sailboat's report. He said the object he saw falling form the sky was burning in full flames. He also said that workers on that oil rig know the regular flight routes due to the contrails in the sky at day - this object was way off those routes. He filed a report to his boss - and got fired one day later and immediately sent off that oil rig.

It is interesting that the sailing women and now this worker both are in line with estimated positions and courses as plotted by last known, published radar contacts. While many will immediately claim "conspiracy theory!", an attempt to cover a possible intentional or accidental shooting down does explain the hilarious manuvering of the Thai officials, their uninspired attitude towards organising the search and the press campaign better, and why the search was diverted so far off last known courses and radar contacts. It also would explain why the woman, after she made herself known that late, was not seriously investigated in details of her report, and why the worker on the oil rig got fired.

That there have been military exercises in an area which MH370 must have passed through, to travel from last confirmed position to the area where these witnesses roughly point at, seems to be confirmed.

Rumours that the plane even was intentionally shot down, had popped up very early, if you go back in time to the beginning of the story unfolding.

Nippelspanner 06-09-14 10:31 AM

Not a big fan of conspiracy theories... but not every theory is just a theory and that sounds at least... interesting.

Catfish 06-09-14 10:36 AM

Ah, you mean they thought there might be a Taliban chief aboard the plane, and shot it down with killing the 'rest' of the passengers as collateral damage' ?
Was there a wedding party, on board ? :-?


Seriously (though the above happened, only with drones and w/o passenger jet), wouldn't you think this would be made public - even today i think they would offically admit an error ?
Having shot down a civilian plane in error has been admitted earlier, wasn't there that Korean 747 some decade ago ?
I mean all else would be too atrocious and bad for the countries involved, if this truth came out - better stand the ground and admit it.
And organise precautions that this will never happen again. :hmmm:

Skybird 06-09-14 10:45 AM

Although the idea makes sense - more than much else beimg speculated on from official side - , there are many If's involved.

Also, two countries would have been involved, according to the author, the US and Thailand. Even any US reaction to an accidental decision should not be taken for granted, no matter how reasonable it seems to assume the US would do this or that - and Thailand does many things very differently than the West anyway.

Admiral Halsey 06-09-14 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2215024)
Ah, you mean they thought there might be a Taliban chief aboard the plane, and shot it down with killing the 'rest' of the passengers as collateral damage' ?
Was there a wedding party, on board ? :-?


Seriously (though the above happened, only with drones and w/o passenger jet), wouldn't you think this would be made public - even today i think they would offically admit an error ?
Having shot down a civilian plane in error has been admitted earlier, wasn't there that Korean 747 some decade ago ?
I mean all else would be too atrocious and bad for the countries involved, if this truth came out - better stand the ground and admit it.
And organise precautions that this will never happen again. :hmmm:

Well that was the Soviet shootdown and they did try to cover it up at first Then you've got Iran Air Flight 655 which the US shot down.(Don't know if it was admitted at first or not though.) I'd say that it's quite possible that they'd be trying to cover this up if they shot it down.

Flamebatter90 06-09-14 02:53 PM

Here's an interview of Inmarsat's vice president of satellite operations Mark Dickinson, explaining how and why they think MH370 is where they are searching for it:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/27/wo...sis/index.html

BossMark 06-12-14 01:27 AM

I'm thinking of sending my wife out to Malaysia to help find missing flight MH370.

She has an extraordinary ability to bring stuff up that every other sod forgot about months ago.

Jimbuna 06-15-14 05:59 AM

^ That won't be possible.

August 06-15-14 05:58 PM

Maybe it's a cause or symptom of the phantom page bug... :hmmm:

Stealhead 06-15-14 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2215028)
(Don't know if it was admitted at first or not though.)

Officially no but the US government did pay settlement money to each passengers family so one of those we did not but we did deals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

guntherprien 08-08-14 06:49 PM

I heard a BBC radio 4 interview with the CEO of the company who manufacture the black box recorder type apparatus,and he said that each BB sends an entirely unique signal,unrepeatable in this world.
This signal was reported to be picked up ?
It either was or wasn't.
No mistake.
To all senior guys who have denigrated my posts:Either put up or shut up.
You have no respect from me until you shut your stupid mouths and do some research.
Forget your rhetoric of disasembling my posts sentence by sentence,
thinking you look good,you look like a muppet.
You tell me why this CEO is wrong,bearing in mind this guy is a professional businessman,and you are a mere non entity posting on a submarine www.
Go for it,and don't be shy.:arrgh!:

Sailor Steve 08-08-14 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by guntherprien (Post 2231740)
I heard a BBC radio 4 interview with the CEO of the company who manufacture the black box recorder type apparatus,and he said that each BB sends an entirely unique signal,unrepeatable in this world.

Can you give us a link to this interview? A transcript? Does he back up your claim that the government is covering it up? If not, what is it worth?

Quote:

To all senior guys who have denigrated my posts:Either put up or shut up.
If I was brand new here I'd still be pointing out that you have yet to put anything up. You make a lot of claims but you still have shown nothing.

Quote:

You have no respect from me until you shut your stupid mouths and do some research.
What research would you have me do? You made the claim; it's your job to prove it, or at least provide evidence. So far you have failed to do that. So, why would I want your respect?

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Forget your rhetoric of disasembling my posts sentence by sentence,
I tried, but when you keep saying several different things in one post you make it kind of hard.

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thinking you look good,you look like a muppet.
Again, having shown nothing you return to insults. It's okay, I've been insulted by far better than you.

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You tell me why this CEO is wrong,bearing in mind this guy is a professional businessman,and you are a mere non entity posting on a submarine www.
Go for it,and don't be shy.:arrgh!:
First you need to actually show us what he said. What you say means nothing without proof. You are also a non-entity posting on a submarine www, so your word is worth nothing.

Also, as I said before, at least I let people here know who I really am, and don't hide behind the anonymity of the keyboard.

Your turn. :sunny:

TarJak 08-08-14 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guntherprien (Post 2231740)
I heard a BBC radio 4 interview with the CEO of the company who manufacture the black box recorder type apparatus,and he said that each BB sends an entirely unique signal,unrepeatable in this world.
This signal was reported to be picked up ?
It either was or wasn't.
No mistake.
To all senior guys who have denigrated my posts:Either put up or shut up.
You have no respect from me until you shut your stupid mouths and do some research.
Forget your rhetoric of disasembling my posts sentence by sentence,
thinking you look good,you look like a muppet.
You tell me why this CEO is wrong,bearing in mind this guy is a professional businessman,and you are a mere non entity posting on a submarine www.
Go for it,and don't be shy.:arrgh!:

Lose the keys to your meds cabinet did you?

If that's what the CEO of whatever the company is said, then he'd most likely correct.

How that interview relates to your RN mate intimating a coverup of an RN sub picking up said signal from the other side of an ocean, I've no idea. I've also no idea whether the signals reported to have been picked up months ago by Chinese and Australian ships were actually from the FDR or CVR.

Your name calling is just childish.

Skybird 10-09-14 05:44 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-996212.html

I think the plane either had a secret cargo/passenger that some intelligence agency did not want to reach its destination - or we will see this plane again in the future: when it flies into some big, huge building with many people in it.

So, a government plot or a terrorist coup, to me that are the prime suspects amongst all possible theories.


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