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Tchocky 07-03-10 09:18 AM

1-0 to Germany

"Shelter the Nazis, will you?" :woot:

Wolfehunter 07-03-10 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1429537)
So if the rules would say the team in white jerseys always gets one goal extra, you would accept it, because it is the rule and thus you accept it without questioning it, and just move on, eh?

Any assistance to minimise the number of events where a team gets betrayed over a goal and the sports get damaged by unfairness, is welcomed. even more so when other team sports demonstrate since many years how well it can work and how useful it turns out.

whenever I hear on TV somebody defending to leave things as they are regarding "video evidence", the only argument these people can bring up is that they played football themselves twenty years ago, and 20 years ago there was no chipped ball or goal cameras, and so there should not be chipped balls or goal cameras today - becuaue that would mean a change to what they hold up so precious sentimental memories over. But I never have heared any constructive argument in favour of not implementing video evidence. There simply is none available since the technology has become reliable. It is sometimes tried to argue by how much emotion there would be lost if there is a video evidence procedure. Well, tell that a hockey fan or an American Football fan - he would be laughing right in your face! I personally could very well and happily live without unfair events like the 2:2 not counted for England today and the offside of Argentinia being counted as an (invalid) 1:0. Because I rate fairness and sportsmanship as higher than the memories of some stubborn old men afraid of changes.

To me, finally using video evidence or anything like that in football is simply a sign of professionalism, fairness, respect for the game, and adulthood. I see no positive emotion in betraying one team over the fruits of it's sports efforts.

Game isn't fair. And yes I move on. I wouldn't be happy but I accept the decision of the ref grudgingly. Because ref is the judge, jury and executioner. The guy didn't see it or he favored German team. Hence the results. Its not going to change.

papa_smurf 07-03-10 10:37 AM

Germany are going thru -3-0 up.

Skybird 07-03-10 10:45 AM

"Habe die Ehre, Senores!"


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Skybird 3 Jimbuna 1 :D

sergei 07-03-10 10:49 AM

Wow.
They absolutely took Argentina to pieces.
Well done :woot:

Wolfehunter 07-03-10 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sergei (Post 1434448)
Wow.
They absolutely took Argentina to pieces.
Well done :woot:

Hell ya great game. I was worried because ARG had a great team... :yeah: 4:0 win for Germany :up:

OneToughHerring 07-03-10 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1434450)
Hell ya great game. I was worried because ARG had a great team... :yeah: 4:0 win for Germany :up:

I thought they were pretty overrated, time someone showed them what's what. Messi plays well but only in a team where he has constantly good delivery and the opposition is weaker.

papa_smurf 07-03-10 11:00 AM

Looking more like the final is going to be Netherlands v Germany. Now that would be a grudge match:D

Wolfehunter 07-03-10 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1434453)
I thought they were pretty overrated, time someone showed them what's what. Messi plays well but only in a team where he has constantly good delivery and the opposition is weaker.

Naw they have good players. Very strong team.. but not today.. :D

Skybird 07-03-10 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf (Post 1434456)
Looking more like the final is going to be Netherlands v Germany. Now that would be a grudge match:D

Let'S not forget that Spain is an extremely homogenous team, with very good discipline - they have both strong individual players and strong team interaction. Their midfield is probably the best, currently. Beating Australia 4:0, England 4:1 and Argentinia 4:0 is one thing - beating Spain imo is something different, for me they are the favourites after their match against Portugal - because at no time of the match they looked as if they had any doub t that sooner or later they would win. they stayed calm, disciplined, patient - great perfomance!

In both coming matches for Germany, everything is possible now - in good or in bad. Holland also is a good team, though I think Germany could control them easier than Spain, since Robben is somewhat monotonous in his play: always down the right wing, and then turning into the centre. He has become forseeable, and by that: vulnerable for neutralisation. I am sure the DFB analysts have realised it.

On a sidenote, all but one of the seven yellow players of Germany have their cards deleted now, only Müller has to pause. That is a great relief.

OneToughHerring 07-03-10 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1434460)
Naw they have good players. Very strong team.. but not today.. :D

Messi, Tevez, (both failed in these games IMO, Messi is like the Argentinian Rooney, a hyped striker who doesn't deliver) Higuain in this cup, Mascherano...That's about it really, as far as the 'big' names are concerned.

I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree. Germany played a clean game and deserved to win this one.

I haven't seen the Dutch play so I don't know exactly how good they are but I'd say Germany is the top contender for the top spot.

Marcantilan 07-03-10 11:38 AM

Yep, we are out (damn octopus!)

Germany will be the next world champion.

Jimbuna 07-03-10 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1434446)
"Habe die Ehre, Senores!"

Skybird 3 Jimbuna 1 :D

:damn::damn::damn:

:DL

I thought Germany were outstanding...this was easily the best match of the tournament so far :rock:

Germany were well worthy of the win and the way they destroyed the Argentine plan in the second half.....heavy tackles meant to injure or at least frighten the opposition into submission.

One can only imagine the carnage had it been Uruguay v Argentina :o

Hopefully my final prediction will come true...a Spanish win against Paraguay.

I honestly think Spain will be stiffer opposition in the semi final than Argentina were but I wouldn't like to predict a winner there :hmmm:

Skybird 07-03-10 03:34 PM

That Spanish match this evening was not convincing, and the Germans must not fear them. Paraguay has taught Germany how Spain can be neutralised, especially in the first half - and Germany's teeth are much sharper and much longer than Paraguay's.

I think we will beat Spain next week. And Netherlands in finals - if they make it - is a solvable challenge, too.

Before the tournament I would never have expected that I would come to think Germany could become top favourite for the title. But since this evening, to me it is. There is confidence over here! :yeah:Let's ask the Octopus (and show him the deep fryer first before his verdict :DL )

Skybird 4 Jimbuna 2 :salute:

goldorak 07-03-10 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak (Post 1433413)
Mine is almost the same except :

Netherlands
Uruguay
Germany
Spain

:D


4 over 4. :D

Next round : Germany out, Uruguay out. Final : Spain vs Holland. :shucks:

Ps: The absense of Müller in the semifinal will be catastrophic for the german team.


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