:o are you joking?

Couldnt that lead to some kind of lawsuits ? Jeeh and we are supposed to buy a game from the same ppl that give to their customers spyware.

What happens if i want to play on a cross country plane flight????

in most cases they slip a line or two about it in the ULA so you agree to accept this spyware as part of the game install

No, the spyware IL2 4.05m .exe is not a joke- 4.05m was originally only intended to be released in Russia. After many requests, it was released through UBI for the non-FSU countries, as download-only. Fair enough so far. However.... instead of a simple direct download, a separate programme, BoontyBox, had to be downloaded first, which controlled download and installation/activation. Here the first problems cropped up: some could not even download 4.05m with BoontyBox, others (me included) could not install the download through BoontyBox. Luthier of RRG spent a LOT of his own time finding a workaround, and discovered that the UBI version of the .exe was much larger than the one 1C had sent to UBI. Together with invisible bits which BoontyBox installed this .exe sent data to UBI regarding time Il2 4.05m was used etc etc- assuming the new .exe would allow the upgraded IL2 to run reliably in the first place; quite often, it didn't. The solution to get 4.05m to run reliably was to use the 4.04m .exe. Needless to say, the excrement hit the ventilator and many fans who would otherwise have bought 4.05m didn't, losing UBI and ultimately 1C quite a few sales (not to mention goodwill). Wouldn't be surprised if that was a principal reason for 1C to decide not to use UBI as distributor when SoW is released.

Short Memories
 

Remember, most of UBI's stuff requires 2 to 4 patches/upgrades before it even work properly. This will go on for months.

Aside from all the lockups, lost games, non functional features and blue screens, we'll have to now go through the cumbersome process of rebooting and reconnecting EACH TIME IT HAPPENS!!!! What a cluster f%$# !!!!!!

Silent Hunter is a great franchise but there are limits to the level of frustrations people will willingly pay for. This is supposed to be entertainment, A GAME; not a career, cause, statement, or marathon.

There is a minority of folks willing to "fight the good fight" and try to beat this mess. To those people, the "game" is fighting with the mess and the workarounds. There are many excellent ways to spend you entertainment dollars for the majority of "gamers".

My 2 cents........

Just another frustration with playing PC games. It is frustrations like this that has nearly completely killed PC gaming. It is just to frustrating for non-techies to fool around with all the trouble that is associated with playing PC games. These new DRM methods just adds another layer of frustration that keeps people away, and pushes more people away that used to play PC games. Our industry is in deep deep trouble I am afraid. I find myself buying a new PC game about 2 or 3 times a year now when I used to buy about 6 or 7 a year. Ouch!!!!

If you can't come up with a better system to stop piracy then just don't make the game. Don't release something that is going to cause everybody a bunch of trouble just to play. Just go away.

How dare you!
 

No piracy, please.

The Management

Don't know if it's good or bad news..................... but I've been doing a little digging, and have found SH5 is already going live on-line, and patched. (dubious means, though)

I guess that gives us law abiding citizens some hope of a future fix.

(either that, or there are some big scams going)

I would say scam, it certainly isn't released yet!:hmmm:

it goes on and on
 

as a citizen of a former people's dictatorship, i can't decide if i should laugh or cry.

in pre 1989 romania, if you had a weapon permit, it came packaged with rude cops entering your property without your permision to check the whereabouts of your weapon(s) and ammo. you were supposed to register typewriters, copy machines and photo cameras with the local precinct. you were not allowed to posses just any kind of radio or tv set, only those that were "approved" ie certified that one couldn't receive BBC or Radio Free Europe with them. yea, you had to register those anyway. police scanners? i believe they started with seven years for that.

and that was only the crust of the cake. there were forbidden books; there were forbidden movies; there were censored songs. mass surveillance (within the technical capabilites of the era and place) was everywhere. a goddamn phone line installation came with what nowadays would be described as an EULA implying consent for wiretapping. actually, minus the "agreement" part. the law implied obedience and acceptance of wiretapping. and that was after waiting on the list for six months. it was cheap, i'll admit that.

the "west" proclaimed to stand for the exact opposite of what we were; and was ready to rain atomic weapons on our heads to ensure that this disease we called our way of life didn't take hold in their back yard.

and yet, thirty years from that time, i see things like DMCA; a year's income and jail time for a copyright infringement; CCTVs on every corner; data mining on a massive scale; "think of the children" and "freedom fries"; and WORST OF ALL, people that claim to uphold democratic and humanitarian principles saying "if you've got nothing to hide or didn't do anything wrong then you've got nothing to worry about"; do you have ANY idea how many times THAT was said in certain cellars not so long ago in my country?

you might think this is overdoing it in a discussion about game copy protection. but it's not. see, it's about control. it's about turning people into little mindless pavlov zombies; stimulus - reaction; it's about monetizing culture and demonizing any kind of human pursuit that's offering even the slightest shred of independent, personal experience. and it's not even government mandated: the big apes enable it; the private sector does the heavy lifting.

to come here and see people that have nothing against, hell, endorse third parties interfering with the way they live their daily lives. it makes me sick. maybe angleton was right and the soviets did fake their collapse in order to better conquer the world.

:damn:

/\ Good post, and well said.

@walleye:
post of the day!

Walleye is right! DRM/OSP makes me think of KGB, Stazi, Dina and other repressive institutions.

The latest: OSP = Ober Subsimmer Polizei :eek:

I have cancled my preorder, good luck with the game, I may buy it after it have been relesed and solution to DRM have been fixed so i dont need to stay online...and no..not talking about ubisoft fix..