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The only headline worth reporting today

White House appears ready to drop 'public option'
Facing mounting opposition to the overhaul, administration officials left open the chance for a compromise with Republicans that would include health insurance cooperatives instead of a government-run plan. Such a concession probably would enrage Obama's liberal supporters (and it has)but could deliver a much-needed victory on a top domestic priority opposed by GOP lawmakers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

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Depressing. Our leaders have sold us out.

What happened to Presidents who said "The Buck Stops Here" and acted accordingly?

Make no mistake about it. Obama has sold us out. He's going to force everyone into Romneycare where you buy junk policies that wont cover doodley-squat. And the beancounters will be able to deny even more care. Meanwhile, the racketeering CEO's will get to double their bloated salaries. This is just more corporate welfare.

So much for "Taking On The Private Interests".

i think the idea is they lie like a rug about what he wants and then pass a sham bill quickly

Baucus' bill is the one Obama will sign...More corporate welfare for the pimping CEOs while the rest of us get *******ed even more

Yes, they have sold us out. So public option, just a weak co-op as yet another band aid that won't do s***. Obama said he was for change. We now see that's all we'll have left in our pockets after he forces Romneycare down out throats.

and the Bait and Switch continues

Bribing criminal scumbags is what he calls reform

the royal scam on the american public is in high gear baby-pedal to the metal

This is an exrememly sad depelopment

We already elected an overwhelmingly Democratic House, 60 Senators and the President. What the f--k more do we have to do?

But at least 20 of the Dem Senators are traitors and appeasers including the "leader".

No more donating to the DNC

Get ready for a GOP Congress in 2010. It's a rerun of Clinton all over again

Embarrassed to say that I totally believed him

Stick a fork in health care reform. It's dead. We're going to have to wait another 15-20 years before we can try (and fail) again

You have got to be *******ing kidding me

he is already on track to be a one term President. He will either lose the nomination or the election. And no, I am not one who thought he was going to lose in the past. I donated my legal limit to him in Decedmber 2007 and then went over every time McCain's numbers went up. But I do not intend to vote for Obama again, not in a primary anyway

He also said he would repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

The terrorists won. I have said this before, but it bears repeating - Rove was right when he said that Dems are soft on terrorists. He said that after we were attacked on 9/11 the Dems would have sought counseling for the terrorists. Well, terrorists attacked us again on the health care debate, and guess what we did? It's over. I am going to redouble my efforts to find a job in a civilized country. THere is no one here to support any more.

Sigh it was nice while it lasted...guess I'll be staying home next election...******* those blue dog inbreds...

Get ready for Speaker Boner, Majority Leader Frog Face, and President Palin in 2013The Dems are not getting any more money, volunteer time, or even votes from me. I've been voting Dem since 1978, and it's over.

un*******ing believable!!!! I AM NOT PLEASED AT ALL!!!

This bulls*** "compromise" is infuriating!

I'm not okay with it and that's not why I voted for him, talk about failure!

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN?????????????????????????

We're screwed. We'll end up with a bad government program, either a co-op or public option, which will prove what the Republicans have been saying all along, government is the problem, not the solution. We are allowing the Republicans to dominate the discussion and we will deserve what we get.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...017164#4017169

Damn, I was hoping it was "Vikings win Superbowl." or nikimcbee wins lottery.:hmmm::woot:

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1152032)

Damn, I was hoping it was "Vikings win Superbowl." oe nikimcbee wins lottery.:hmmm::woot:

If either would happen......ya wouldn't hear about it from me.:D

When you leave for that Civilized country..... Don't forget to turn off the lights.

:haha:

As a biased political article, it is not even entertaining to read. :nope:

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1152039)

As a biased political article, it is not even entertaining to read. :nope:

Now the AP is biased? Given, the DU post is biased but I thought the AP wasn't.?.:timeout: Or is the AP only unbias when it supports the left?

Read the article. Look at the words. Just because the journalist agrees with your position, does not mean it is unbiased.

Unbiased journalists don't use words like criminal scumbags for starters.

So congratulations on finding an article that agrees with your opinion, but as news, it belongs with the latest on Brittney Spears.

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1152048)

'criminal scumbags' ? I think you are looking at the DU post, the leftist post, not the AP post. What does that tell you?

AP
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

DU
http://www.democraticunderground.com...017164#4017169

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1152048)

you sure you clicked the Yahoo/AP link and not the blog? The AP story doesnt say anything about criminals or scumbags

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1152039)

As a biased political article, it is not even entertaining to read. :nope:

Whoa! That sounds more like a biased opinion than a biased article! Open your mind man and let us know your thoughts. I hate simple one line responses that lack the reasoning behind them. Only bias could make you say what you did.

-S

Removing the 'public option' guts HR 3200. And Obama will claim a victory which is false. Any healthcare bill without a 'public option' changes nothing. RESET! Start with tort reform.

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Originally Posted by Aramike (Post 1150834)

We're not going to legalize drugs for children. But instead, if you legalized drugs for adults that dealer could carry the stuff LEGALLY to sell to a child when the cop's not looking.

A cop stops a guy a few blocks away from a school now with rocks on him, he's going to prison - for a long time if there's an intent to deliver. Cop stops a guy in same situation with legalized drugs ... guy gets off and moves to another school.

Does that happen now with alcohol?

But I do agree you have a point. But then I don't think any drug that has to be manufactured should be legalized.

By the same token most comparisons made with alcohol abuse are usually related to smoking weed, not anything else.

I didn't know we had that many Female Members. :haha:

Ban alcohol and hard drugs,legalise cannabis and we will all be able to leave the sorry state we left human kind in for the last ...years.

At least thats what rasta's say,they seem to be the only people these days with a sense of reality....and i support them.:cool:

If you cant help yourself you can never be a normal human being,just a drag to society.

I was responding to the words in the quotation block in the post.

My apologies, the top link goes to a different article.