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Perilscope 09-20-06 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
Actual real war was not declared.

The terrorists did thought! ;)

The Avon Lady 09-21-06 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish
Perhaps I am the only one here, but seems to me the guy is just bringing the boy to a safe spot.

You know something?

I agree with you. I'm going to post an comment on the article.

The Avon Lady 09-21-06 02:11 AM

I knew that! :roll:

Follow the links, too. :yep:

Immacolata 09-21-06 05:42 AM

I wonder how the anti-torture crow is going to explain their way out of that one.

The Avon Lady 09-21-06 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Immacolata
I wonder how the anti-torture crow

You meant "crowd" but "crow" fits in nicely. :lol:

Fish 09-21-06 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
I knew that! :roll:

Follow the links, too. :yep:

O'Reilly he? :hmm:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200609160003


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSRwUxjmM4

Skybird 09-21-06 01:08 PM

Also something that has to do with the GC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5368360.stm

If I remember correctly, I have hinted at this since over a year - and defenders of the war always were only laughing and wondering if I am serious, and saying that it cannot be true. "Worse than under Saddam? Can't be true, cause what have we fought for so far, then?"

Well, good question, guys.

tycho102 09-21-06 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Also something that has to do with the GC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5368360.stm

If I remember correctly, I have hinted at this since over a year - and defenders of the war always were only laughing and wondering if I am serious, and saying that it cannot be true. "Worse than under Saddam? Can't be true, cause what have we fought for so far, then?"

Well, good question, guys.

Well, seeing how CNN never reported on Saddam's jails because they'd get kicked out of the country (or just outright shot), and seeing how the International Red Cross never grew the balls necessary to actually "inspect" his prisons and mass graves....I'd say the Shi'a are looking to wipe out the Sunni. And I'd also say that Iran is doing it's part to further just that. I'd also say that Saudi Arabia will be feeling the Shi'a pressure when Iraq and Iran team up against it. Kuwait will also be sucking.

To answer your question, we got the Kurds some autonomy, and they are a pain in the ass for Iran, Turkey, the Shi'a, and the Sunni. If the Shi'a manage to wipe out the Sunni, they're still going to have to deal with the Wahabbi and ethnic Kurds.


And it's entirely possible some good could come out of that very position.

Skybird 09-21-06 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tycho102
To answer your question, we got the Kurds some autonomy, and they are a pain in the ass for Iran, Turkey, the Shi'a, and the Sunni. If the Shi'a manage to wipe out the Sunni, they're still going to have to deal with the Wahabbi and ethnic Kurds.

My question...?

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And it's entirely possible some good could come out of that very position.
And it is also entirely possible that tomorrow I win the jackpot in Lotto, and on X-mas get abducted by an UFO and get genetically mutated into the master of all universe.

Sea Demon 09-21-06 02:36 PM

;)
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Originally Posted by Skybird
And it is also entirely possible that tomorrow I win the jackpot in Lotto, and on X-mas get abducted by an UFO and get genetically mutated into the master of all universe.

:hmm: I guess you didn't listen to the Iraqi President yesterday thanking the USA for liberating Iraq, and looking forward to taking more control of it. He seemed rather upbeat about it. Fact is, right now, there is less death going on. Things are looking up, but like my friend over there right now said, don't listen to the media. He's said before that there are many challenges, violent spots of terrorist resistance left, and we know that terrorists are terrorizing the local population. What's new???But we're trying everything in our power to stabilize the situation. And my friend Chris volunteered happily to go back, and knows more than you about the situation Skybird. You read the internet, he's actually there.

Maybe someday you'll realize that the USA is actually your friend. ;)

Skybird 09-21-06 03:09 PM

Yaddayaddayadda. In five years, at the latest, no one will talk like that anymore. Promised.

Concerning the Iraqi president - anyone out there taking that jester serious...? He does a politican's typical job: glossing things over.

Soldiers tend to stubbornly believe exclusively what motivates them for their mission. Cause if they start to question the mission, the morale goes down. I have sympathy for that. Who wants to realize that he is being send into war for lies, and on a lost mission? Realising that really can ruin your day - and the days you still have to spend there. so keep up the sweet dream, as long as possible. Maybe you can win some more minutes before the rough awakening.

And what has all that to do with the detoriating situation concerning torture over there, practiced from all sides? It has been reported soince over a year, by many different medias, correspondents, organisations over the last year - not only by the UN now.

Skybird 09-21-06 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
Maybe someday you'll realize that the USA is actually your friend. ;)

Judging by it's unrealistic policies, a very debile friend, and not less retarded than it's European "partner". Two idiots walking together - do their IQs add up for a better score...?

SUBMAN1 09-21-06 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Yaddayaddayadda. In five years, at the latest, no one will talk like that anymore. Promised.

Concerning the Iraqi president - anyone out there taking that jester serious...? He does a politican's typical job: glossing things over.

Soldiers tend to stubbornly believe exclusively what motivates them for their mission. Cause if they start to question the mission, the morale goes down. I have sympathy for that. Who wants to realize that he is being send into war for lies, and on a lost mission? Realising that really can ruin your day - and the days you still have to spend there. so keep up the sweet dream, as long as possible. Maybe you can win some more minutes before the rough awakening.

And what has all that to do with the detoriating situation concerning torture over there, practiced from all sides? It has been reported soince over a year, by many different medias, correspondents, organisations over the last year - not only by the UN now.

I guess if you knew that you were doing a mission for a bunch of lies, it might affect your moral. Good thing that what they are fighting for is the right thing!!! Most of those soldiers have a "Brain" Skybird and can figure out that they are doing the world a favor! Maybe one day you will figure it out too! :p

-S

Skybird 09-21-06 03:56 PM

Stars shining bright above you,
night breezes seem to whipser I love you,
birds singing in a sycamore tree
dream a little dream of me.

Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you -
Sweet dreams that leave all worries behind you.
But in your dreams, whatever they be,
Dream a little dream of me.

bradclark1 09-21-06 08:11 PM

ttp://p8.news.re2.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060921/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_casey_interview_2;_ylt=AjE7fLB_p5NCIpHdSQbFwI ZX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...368770,00.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091901341.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0921/dailyUpdate.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092001716.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5052138.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Just an interesting piece:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...ck=1&cset=true

Tchocky 09-21-06 09:06 PM

The "terrorists don't respect GC" argument is wearing thin..

1) This isnt really about whoever you're fighting against, it's about your country's respect and self-image. I've used the slippery-slope argument so often in the last few years I'm not bothered anymore.

1a) How the hell can you fight "terror"? It's a bleedin' tactic, not a country.

2) Is this really about "clarifying" the GC? There would not be this kind of fuss if this was over a legal term-switching. W wants to be able to do things he cant legally do/has just been found out doing.

The Noob 09-21-06 09:06 PM

You right Wing Republicans...are...arrrrg! :nope:
A unfriendly bunch of war-for-profit people who think Europeans are Stupid fools. I know a Friend from America, he's now here in Austria. And Hell, he finally did Realise how much USA *Add Insult Here*.

Maybe you all should come over here and try it out!

Time for a Song Parody.

This is the USA, Mister Jones
No free health insurance or prepaid telephones
You had your Money in wallet before
But you won't have it there any more
(Credit Cards)

This is the USA, Mister Green
We like the Guns nice and clean
You had a Policman to kill your Criminals before
But he won't help you out any more

Do what the Employer command
They're in the Republican Party and not in a band

This is the USA, Mister Brown
You and your Gun went to town
The Mugger had you worried about this Street
And he won't worry you anymore
*Gunshot Sound*

August 09-21-06 10:29 PM

Haha you people are going to be so mad when you see who we elect as our next president.

Ishmael 09-21-06 10:40 PM

How do you know there will be an election after this one? Bush thinks he's called by God to lead this country until the job is done. How do you know he will leave office?

The Noob 09-21-06 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by August
Haha you people are going to be so mad when you see who we elect as our next president.

Maybe. If you AGAIN "Elect" (If you can call it that) a Republican Cowboy like Bush for President, there will be a Very angry Post here. And after this President (Wich will be Controlled by the Bush's, thier Money and Companys), there will be again: Right, a Bush! :nope:

Nostradamus was right.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/928...radamusso4.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6149/bushidioteb5.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ishmael
Bush thinks he's called by God to lead this country until the job is done.

Like the Pope. Pope Bush. :roll:

But in the end it's all a Conspirancy by the three stooges.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/589...stoogesfq6.jpg


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