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zoinks 07-08-06 12:52 PM

i'm using sh3 2.6 with GW just fine. if you want to upgrade to 2.6 in your current career, make sure you saved in port before upgrading.

Kpt. Lehmann 07-08-06 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mau
If I just installed the GW Mod, is the SH3Commander 2.6 will be all right or it will freeze the game at one point.

Should I just go and installed the 2.5 version

Is there significant changes in 2.6 so that I should take a chance with that version?

Thanks

P.s. I just installed GW on a fresh install (stock game). Is the problem with 2.6 is based on a previous install of 2.5 or it is a problem in general?

Thanks

GW is and will remain SH3 Commander compatible.

602Sqn_Puff 07-08-06 02:25 PM

NYGM files work a treat , thanks for all involved ...now back to my patrol

Salvadoreno 07-08-06 08:01 PM

Wow JCWolf hasnt been around for awhile. I need some graphics mods :)

Payoff 07-08-06 10:02 PM

I am not sure how to use the random file for the Combined Skin Pack and officer bodies (clothes). I have read the Readme and Help file but maybe I missed something. The readme states "INSTALLATION: Simply unzip directly into your SH3 Commander installation folder, overwriting existing files if prompted", but there is already a DATE folder in SH3 Commander. I dont want to lose all of that data with the gramophone messages right? Any help would be appreciated, and thanks again for a wonderful addition to this sim.

JScones 07-08-06 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958
JScones,
I assume I have to reinstall the combined skin pack after I install SH3CMDR.
irish1958

Yep.:up:

JScones 07-08-06 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaxspore
Why dont you add an ability to change your torpedo loadout in SH3 Commander. I know wolf made a tweek pack, but if u use SH3 commander it over rights the edited basic.cfg.

That would make this handy program x10 more handy :)

Actually, SH3Cmdr does not overwrite Basic.cfg. It updates specific values within, but does not replace the whole file.

If you are finding that your changes to Basic.cfg are being overwritten, then it's highly likely that you didn't rollback SH3Cmdr prior to editing your Basic.cfg file. You must rollback SH3Cmdr first. Then you can apply your torpedo loadout changes either directly to Basic.cfg, or perhaps preferably to SH3Cmdr's Static settings.cfg file. This approach is preferred, simply as it ensures that your settings are always used, regardless of whatever mods you install at any given time.

JScones 07-08-06 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payoff
I am not sure how to use the random file for the Combined Skin Pack and officer bodies (clothes). I have read the Readme and Help file but maybe I missed something. The readme states "INSTALLATION: Simply unzip directly into your SH3 Commander installation folder, overwriting existing files if prompted", but there is already a DATE folder in SH3 Commander. I dont want to lose all of that data with the gramophone messages right? Any help would be appreciated, and thanks again for a wonderful addition to this sim.

Don't know about the clothes aspect, as the Combined Skin Pack (CSP) includes ship skins only.

Unzipping the CSP into SH3Cmdr will not overwrite any existing SH3Cmdr files.

NKVD-crazyivan 07-08-06 11:53 PM

Thanks JS...............i followed your uninstall instructions to the letter.............rolled back SH3C 2.5 then add remove programs uninstalled SH3C 2.5..............went into my SH3 folder and found my SH3C install folder made sure only the SH3cmdr.ini file remained........by the way every thing else was gone....then i just installed SH3C 2.6 and every thing seams to be fine.............All this during mid patrol............

One Q where do you exactly check on the destroyer reaction time thing ti 15 min etc i dont seam to see an option for that................

great effort thanks agian........Also what is the best fatigue mod im using the RUB one i hate crew shifting and is it all right to change fatigue mods through SH3C whilst in base.......

thanks agian big guy love your efforts keep up the good work...........:) :rock: :rock:

JScones 07-08-06 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKVD-crazyivan
One Q where do you exactly check on the destroyer reaction time thing ti 15 min etc i dont seam to see an option for that................

Open Randomised events.cfg in SH3Cmdr's Cfg folder. Look for the lines, near the top:

Code:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|45|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes

Simply delete them. Repeat this for each Randomised events_19**.cfg file.

NKVD-crazyivan 07-09-06 12:22 AM

Hi JS sorry but im lost please be kinf to me i have looked in my SH3C folder and found this CFG file random event.cgf
random events_1939.cfg
random events_1940.cfg
ETC........ETC threw to 1945..........
Do you mean completly delate this whole 3 lines in all there entirerity.

[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|45|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes

this is the same line in every randomise events_cfg file i dont wnat to stuff up my game files as you know am running GW mod with your great SH3c 2.6

thanks i have been playing games for ever but im a noob when it comes to messing about with files....

JScones 07-09-06 12:27 AM

Correct. Delete the three lines in *all* Randomised events files. That will ensure that SH3Cmdr doesn't overwrite whatever settings are already in the game.

NKVD-crazyivan 07-09-06 12:44 AM

I have made a back up file just in case and have deleted siad lines...
JS in your opion what is best to do what i have done running SH3C with GW and delete this lines of random envents or should i leave it and use what i had. what exactly does deleating it do.........................for game exsperance have you deleated your lines or have you left them as is.......................

:rock: :rock:

JScones 07-09-06 01:03 AM

Well, I don't actually play the game!

However, if the GW instructions recommend changing the value to 15, then that's what I'd do. And the easiest way to do that is simply to delete the three lines.

But, if fully deleting the lines worries you, then simply make this change instead:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|15|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes

Note the default 45 value has been changed to 15. This will force SH3Cmdr to insert 15 everytime it runs.

You could alternative just add a semicolon to the front of the lines, thus:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
;AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|15|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes


which will force SH3Cmdr to ignore the line altogether.


Either way will work fine.

FWIW, even though I don't actively play SH3, the first thing I do is personalise all SH3Cmdr's Cfg files to my tastes. And that's the aim of SH3Cmdr - to provide you with total control over the changes that it makes.




zzsteven 07-09-06 02:13 AM

Just a quick question wondering if I'm understanding correctly. Currently have about 1/3 of basic.cfg pasted into basic changes and make my "tweaks" in Commander. So now if I want to continue using Commander for simple Basic.cfg changes I have to use this format:
;[Name of the file including the full path from the "data\" level]*
;ApplyToPeriod=<Start date as YYYYMMDD>|<End date as YYYYMMDD>**
;<SectionName>|<KeyName>=<Setting> for text files OR

So every single line will need to be prefaced as in your stock lines? :o

MEDALS_CREW|RenownStep=50; RENOWN, u-boat badge
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrolGerman=60000; TONNAGE, GC

What does this line mean?: ;*Prefix each repeated section name with #: to ensure that the name is unique.
Could you provide an example please. I understand much better when I have something to compare to.

zz

JScones 07-09-06 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzsteven
Just a quick question wondering if I'm understanding correctly. Currently have about 1/3 of basic.cfg pasted into basic changes and make my "tweaks" in Commander. So now if I want to continue using Commander for simple Basic.cfg changes I have to use this format:
;[Name of the file including the full path from the "data\" level]*
;ApplyToPeriod=<Start date as YYYYMMDD>|<End date as YYYYMMDD>**
;<SectionName>|<KeyName>=<Setting> for text files OR

So every single line will need to be prefaced as in your stock lines? :o

MEDALS_CREW|RenownStep=50; RENOWN, u-boat badge
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrolGerman=60000; TONNAGE, GC

What does this line mean?: ;*Prefix each repeated section name with #: to ensure that the name is unique.
Could you provide an example please. I understand much better when I have something to compare to.

zz

No. Just add your lines to the Basic.cfg block that is already there. The text before the | symbol is the section name, and the text after is the keyname. These will be the only changes required.

So, for example, if you want to change the nbdaysinbase value to 44, then just add this line to the current Basic.cfg block in Static settings.cfg (end, middle, beginning, doesn't matter):

TIME|NbDaysInBase=44

Use this method to add all of your changes.

Without the ApplyToPeriod setting, all changes will be used throughout the entire war, which I guess is what you want.

Anyway, here's an example:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[data\Cfg\Basic.cfg]
;The below lines allow player to set U-boat emblem at start of career
RENOWN|FirstRankRenown=100
RENOWN|SecondRankRenown=350

;The below lines provide more realistic promotions (sooner) and medals (longer)
;within the context of the SH3 game engine
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel0=0; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel1=1499; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel2=7999; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel3=15999; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalSettings0=0.25
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalSettings1=0.5
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalSettings2=1
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore0=3000;2 class, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore1=6000;1 class, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore2=20000; knight, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore3=30000; oak leaves, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore4=40000;swords, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore5=50000;diamonds, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore6=90000;all, SCORE

;The below lines increase the number of badges available for awarding and defers
;receipt of clasp and GC until later in the war, to closer reflect actuality
MEDALS_CREW|RenownStep=50; RENOWN, u-boat badge
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrolGerman=60000; TONNAGE, GC

;My personalised settings
TIME|NbDaysInBase=44
etc etc

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

zzsteven 07-09-06 08:35 AM

Thank you, it's as I suspected. That's a lot of copy/pasting, will load Basic.cfg into JSGME and have to remember to rollback Commander before I go in and play around with the file.
Thanks again.

zz

Payoff 07-09-06 08:37 AM

Thanks for the help with CSP. I guess I asked two questions in one sentence. Can you explain how to include various officer skins into SH3 Commander so they appear randomly? In one of your posts a few months ago you mentioned putting different skins in a random folder and they could even change mid patrol, after saving of course. Is this even possible? Thanks again.

Mau 07-09-06 08:45 AM

Hi,

I am in the process of installing GW and SH Commander2.6
I am fairlay new to this game.

Now since it is the first time that I will be doing that, do I have to do anything special (been reading posts lately in that regards) like deleting lines or doing any ''rollback'' thing.

I didn't start a career yet or didn't saved anything game/sceanrios.

So can I just install GW adn install after SH Commander 2.6 with any surprises?

Thank You very much

HEMISENT 07-09-06 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones
OK. What you need to do is create two *new* shortcuts to SH3Cmdr.exe, with the /l: switch added. For example,

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

This forces SH3Cmdr to use these locations rather than use the one stored in the Registry (ie the original installation path).

To create the shortcuts, just right click somewhere on your desktop, select New|Shortcut and enter the location as above, press Next then enter a suitable name, then press Finish. Done.

Then, all you need do is click the icon for the version of SH3 that you want to play. SH3Cmdr does the rest.

ONE warning though. If you run "SH3 - NYGM" then want to run "SH3 - GW" afterwards, you MUST first rollback SH3 - NYGM, otherwise, when you run SH3 - GW, you will cross pollenate it with NYGM files. For example:

ALWAYS
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr NYGM
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr GW

NEVER
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game

Alternatively, you can install (or copy) SH3Cmdr again to a different location. Then, you can point one shortcut to SH3Cmdr installation #1, and the other to SH3Cmdr installation #2. Then you will not have this rollback problem. For example:

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 1\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 2\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

The problem with this approach though is that your SH3Cmdr.ini files will get out of sync with each other. But that's prolly less of a problem than your whole game getting out of sync!

But I'd only recommend this second approach if you think the first approach will cause problems for you.

Thanks, ended up having to make two seperate SH3 Commanders due to NYGM. Working like a champ once I got the path format correct.

What will be the problem with the ini.files. What should I expect?


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