Impressive. Indirectly claiming to stand on the morally superior ground. You're one piece of work, really.

The key is in my hand guys. Don't let me lock this thread !

Drebbel (with my moderator hat on)

Drebbel, please lock this thread. nothing good can come from leave it open. Maybe even delete it all.

You just have to try harder to make it a nice and interesting thread ! :P

Since SHIII was cracked within 24-48 hours of release it is apparent that StarForce or any other such kind of protection scheme is utterly futile, a waste of resources and investment capital, , and rather than protect the producer only serves to tick off the buyers.

Copy protection works best as a source of arguments and quarrels....other than that it is pretty much worthless.

The most effective copy protection,it seems, is making a product so lousy that nobody but nobody wants to copy it..... :lol: ...see Luftwaffe Commander....

As you know, we are not supposed to delete threads except in rare cases where they are very short and consist of spamming for viagra or some hate speech, or illegal download links. ;) If we delete a thread like this, it will compel people to repeat the same discussion in a new thread.

This thread is boiling. :o

SF is over, at least in Ubi, and SH3 already has SF. We can't change any of those two previous things (well, the second one yes, with some tricks I won't explain here), so why keep it so violent? You should cool down a little, and realise that here, discussing SF as if it still was a problem is a waste of time. No one seems to be changing his opinion (strong ideas, that's good), so why to waste more energy on this? It isn't worth it now. Maybe it was still worth a month ago, when we still thought that SF was going into SH4, but now it doesn't make any sense to keep discussing it here in Subsim, at least in such a hard way.

Cheers :rock:

Same goes for the locks on my house door. A good burglar can get in anyway. So you think I should remove the locks completely ?

:D

Don't remove them but use some cheaper locks so you can change them easily. :lol: :lol: :lol:

original thread -

http://forum2.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=137704

another one that lasted longer, i half suspect mga is that forums equivalent of gizzmoe

http://forum2.egosoft.com/viewtopic....er=asc&start=0

you may have to register to see them though.

No, I´m ten times as worse than him. At least.

oh i wouldnt know, i havent seen many of mga's posts.

Why do you even bother breathing? You're gonna die, eventually, anyway. You are a waste of organic material and atmospheric resources, and to think people wasted so much investments in you to put you in this world, how futile, you should've been donated to a Hot-Dog factory at birth, I'd love to eat your meat while playing SHIII.

:hulk: :/\chop :rotfl:

Steady on, but unless I mis-read that above post, that's getting a teeny bit personal aint it?

"I'd love to eat your meat while playing SHIII" -oooh-eer missus [/frankie howard]

hmmmm... oookay.. step away from the topic :o

yeah thats the type of innuendo that gives some navies a dodgy reputation. :)

<- is someone having fun with the avatars, its not quite the weekend yet for me. ;)

right on the x3 forum i had a sig that refered to but didnt mention by name starforce.

the sig was pulled and i got this pm-

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This is an official warning
I have removed your sig as it was referring to s subject matter that is in locked posts.

If you breech the rules again, the next response will be more severe.


Terrabyte

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1, he could have asked me too change the sig, i would have
2, no mention of starforce is in the forum rules
3, pposting about something in a locked topic is not in the forum rules

poor and heavy handed moderating strikes again! reminds me of the ubi forums although ive never posted there only lurked.

Please speak for yourself. I've never used 'cracked' anything.

I'm strongly in favor of companies protecting their intellectual property. But not if it causes problems with my computer. Life is too short; I will just not buy a game that puts my DVD drive or CD-R drive at risk.

When I bought a new PC last fall I told the man at the store that I wanted a machine capable of playing several games. SH3 was one of the games I mentioned. But when I read so much about Starforce or whatever it's called, I decided not to buy the game.

I wonder: will Ubisoft now release a "gold" version of SH3 with some other kind of copy protection? I would buy the game instantly, if that happens.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I really think you opened yourself up on this one.

If Ubisoft released a "Gold" version of SHIII, they better have more things to consider than Starforce. :-j (Not that removal of Starforce shouldn't be an important consideration). But they should be just as concerned with addiing Wolfpacks, more ships, etc, etc, - not the point of this thread though.

I continue to use SHIII with Starforce. I haven't had any problems, but I haven't burned any games for any reason either. I don't make backup copies - I keep them in good condition and would buy new copies if they were damaged (I also keep all the packaging - even the boxes). Maybe this is why I haven't had trouble, although I have burned mix CD's and such without problems.

I am not a pirate whining about copy protection - I don't even want a single backup copy. I just want to play a legally purchased game on one legally purchased computer without having my expensive hardware destroyed - is that really too much to ask? :down:

If I had heard of the problems with Starforce, I would never have risked buying SHIII. Now I own it and enjoy it too much to get rid of it - although I now feel I am taking a serious risk every day which it is installed.

Releasing SHIV without destructive copy-protection would be an unimaginably good idea for Ubisoft. By all means though, include copy-protection. It may be useless for stopping the vast majority of large-scale pirates, but it will stop a few and that is better than nothing. :up: