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Kapitan 02-01-06 09:49 AM

also how did the bomb hit did it slap the deck on its side or just drop like a dart ?

Etienne 02-01-06 03:34 PM

Again, I see having reinforced framing to cope with rough seas (IE, augmented scantling, more frames, more longitudinals, etc), but I don't see how a reinforced deck would help - The definition of reinforced deck here being "Reinforced to support weight", like the deck on a general cargo, or the tank top on a bulk carrier. Unless it's some sort of experiment, the ship had really heavy deck piping, or you mean the reinforcement for the helicopter area.

Liberty ships had midship accomodation, it makes sense to reinforce amidship, since you have a permanent local charge (IE, ship's heavier there)

Many ships have reinforced bow and forward section (The forward part plus 4% of the lenght of a Ice Class 1A, 2% of... etc, etc...) for ice navigation. All bows have to be strengthened for slamming.

I don't see how a ship could realistically takes so long to break up. Was there asbestos onboard? Where was she broken up?

lesrae 02-01-06 04:11 PM

Oh I love forum tennis.

Ahem....

Advantage Etienne.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lesrae/tennis.jpg

Kapitan 02-01-06 04:24 PM

not all ship's have reinfored decks but some do, the ship my stepdad worked on the deck pipeing wieght in excess of 20 tonnes even more when the oil flowed threw them and the pipes were moving around putting great pressure and strain on the decks.

yes many general cargo ships do have reinforced decks Dart 8 had a reinforced deck (ship i worked on) but some dont the oil tanker prestige didnt and she sank after that double hulls in oil tankers were mandatory.

Etienne 02-01-06 04:31 PM

Double hulls were made mandatory by the MARPOL convention, following the Exxon Valdez incident. The Prestige came after that, but as she was an existing ship (IE, a ship built before the new convention), she didn't need to conform to the standards of constructions. She was not, btw, a general cargo.

And reinforced decks wouldn't have saved her. She was essentially rotting from inside out (Heating coils in ballast tanks! That's a SWELL idea!)

Could you ask your stepfather what kind of reinforcement the deck had? I'm really curious.

Kapitan 02-01-06 05:05 PM

ive sent four emails il post the reply when i get it he is three hours ahead at the moment so its 0105

Deamon 04-09-06 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-214
OK,here must be the file i knew.54 MB

http://www.filefactory.com/get/v3/f2...694cb5d6b29231

Click on the free download option

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Video 1 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543485/1.avi.html .

Video 2 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543901/2.avi.html .

Video 3 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11545493/3.avi.html .

The videos seem to be offline. Is there a way to still get them ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO 04-09-06 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon
Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Video 1 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543485/1.avi.html .

Video 2 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543901/2.avi.html .

Video 3 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11545493/3.avi.html .

The videos seem to be offline. Is there a way to still get them ?

Deamon

I am considerating that they got only 7 downloads, a one of them, just 3 ... a very low interest.

They are 142 Mb all together. :doh:

I can upload them again if you are really interested.

Let me know your answer.

Deamon 04-10-06 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
I am considerating that they got only 7 downloads, a one of them, just 3 ... a very low interest.

What a shame !

Quote:

They are 142 Mb all together. :doh:
Yeah YEAH YEAH :rock:

Quote:

I can upload them again if you are really interested.

Let me know your answer.
Let me explain this, Falcland war is one of my most favoured topics in modern naval warfare. That was my favouret scenario in Fleet Command. Although it could have been done better. It would be freaken awesome to play on the argentinian side in the Typ209. Unfortunately there is no typ209 simulator.

I love the Falkland vids and thought where i could find some of them. So i realy realy want them :D

Thank you very much in advance ! :D

Are you knowledgable on the Falkland war ?

BTW: VAN_CAPO you post here alot of great stuff! Are you a collector or something ?

Maybe i can offer you a few things too ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO 04-10-06 11:47 PM

Well, I have packed the files.

I separated them in 2 parts. You will need both to decompress them.

The link to the first part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17700594/...part1.rar.html (78125 KB).

The link to the second part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17708641/...part2.rar.html (68925 KB).

I have the video uploaded by U-214, is awesome, real action, airplanes, bombs and missiles everywhere. With Guns and Roses music in background.
Probably I will upload it tomorrow. :yep:

ABBAFAN 04-11-06 02:23 PM

I wonder if RFA ships will be modeled in the game.(after all they were crucial to keeping the task force operational.)

Deamon 04-11-06 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Well, I have packed the files.

I separated them in 2 parts. You will need both to decompress them.

The link to the first part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17700594/...part1.rar.html (78125 KB).

The link to the second part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17708641/...part2.rar.html (68925 KB).

I have the video uploaded by U-214, is awesome, real action, airplanes, bombs and missiles everywhere. With Guns and Roses music in background.
Probably I will upload it tomorrow. :yep:

Great many thanks. Can't download the second one cose rapidshare tells me that i have downloaded already 80000kb today. Leave it please longer online . I will try tomorrow again.

Looking forward to the 214 clip :up:

Deamon

Deamon 04-11-06 05:41 PM

Ok i got it. Great vid !

But it's not complete isn't it ? Do you have the rest of it too ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO 04-11-06 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon
Ok i got it. Great vid !
But it's not complete isn't it ? Do you have the rest of it too ?
Deamon

The whole video is around 700 Mb.
Obviously it is no practical upload it. :-?

By the way, after the exocet missions, almost every navy realized that they were "naked" (or I can express it with more precision if I use the word "porosity") against this kind of attack.
The result was that they rush themselves to get as soon as possible the "Phalanx system" and, or equivalents . :cool:

VON_CAPO 04-11-06 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon
Looking forward to the 214 clip :up:
Deamon

U-214's movie: http://rapidshare.de/files/10127281/...1232_.wmv.html
(55649 KB).
:cool:

Deamon 04-13-06 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon
Looking forward to the 214 clip :up:
Deamon

U-214's movie: http://rapidshare.de/files/10127281/...1232_.wmv.html
(55649 KB).
:cool:

A big thanks for your efforts VON_CAPO :up:

Great vids!

BTW: What is the title of the Falkland docu ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO 04-14-06 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon
BTW: What is the title of the Falkland docu ?

___Vgroup___Argentine_Air_Force_In_The_Malvinas_Wa r_por_Charlie1232_

Deamon

I think it is a reference to the guy who created this file; "por_Charlie1232 = by_Charlie1232".

35mm Oerlikon system.
The britons tried to deactivate these batteries many times shooting Shrikes antiradar missiles, but the guys in the control trucks always shut down the antenna emissions before the missiles got a good lock on them.
These systems operated until the last day of the war, keeping the harriers away.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2...ikon9bx.th.jpg http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9...44gr6xs.th.jpg http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6...st108qq.th.jpg

Deamon 04-14-06 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon
BTW: What is the title of the Falkland docu ?

___Vgroup___Argentine_Air_Force_In_The_Malvinas_Wa r_por_Charlie1232_

Deamon

I think it is a reference to the guy who created this file; "por_Charlie1232 = by_Charlie1232".

I mean the title of the video from that the other two clips you showed me ?

Quote:

35mm Oerlikon system.
The britons tried to deactivate these batteries many times shooting Shrikes antiradar missiles, but the guys in the control trucks always shut down the antenna emissions before the missiles got a good lock on them.
These systems operated until the last day of the war, keeping the harriers away.
Interesting. Maybe they should have shooted one Shrikes and after a while send another to the same direction and when the first missed and they think the air is clear and shut on radar - BOOOM :-j

I guess thats where the super expensive Stealth bombers pays off.

Deamon

Deamon 04-14-06 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

Hey hey, you play Flashpoint too ? What is the status of the Falkland mod ? Is it near finish ?

Deamon

thyro 04-14-06 07:13 PM

Re: Who is considering this Falklands Argie v Brit flight si
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
http://www.simhq.com/_air5/air_171a.html

and here:

http://www.thunder-works.com/news.htm

Looks promising.



The land seem prety naked! :hmm:


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