Jace11,

I'm afraid you won't be able to listen to the radio while watching the TV once it's on Sky next year - there's a couple of seconds delay on their transmissions. I found out while watching Channel 4 through our Sky system. The radio tells you what's happened before you see it on the TV!

Fantastic series, though. Put simply, the Aussies were knocked backwards by our attacking cricket and self-confidence, all reinforced by Vaughn's clear tactical supremacy over Ponting. Never mind them playing below par - we didn't let them play well.

I really hope Sky give Simon Hughes a job. His analysis adds so much to the viewer's understanding and enjoyment of the game.

Look at the happy English supporters!! Looks like there will be a population increase in England! ;)

True to a large extent, especially regarding Ponting being tactically outclassed, but one look at Australia's results against Bangladesh and various county sides suggests there was more to the Ashes loss than England's game.

I don't think Shane Warne should ever have been ditched as captain in the first place. I don't care what he does off the field, there is no doubt he is a cricketing genius. This system where Ponting is officially captain while everyone including Ponting turns to Warne for advice is an inherently flawed one.

I agree with that.....Warne has a brilliant cricketing mind. Even they he is a nutcase off the field, it shouldn't factor into his 'Day job'.

Blimey, talk about a back-handed compliment. 'Well done for beating us, but it's not a real victory' - is that it?

Who has the Ashes?

LOL.

Heck, the Aussies beat us most of the time. I think maybe you could be a bit more magnanimous on one of the few occasions when we do win. Or is sportsmanship and fair play completely dead?

We will be Back !

Congrats to the Brits, well done.

Ya saucy sods ;)

You lot always have the Ashes, you never ever allow us to take them home when we win a series. But we are so thankful that you English 'allow' us to have a replica to take home.....

Sportsmanship and fair play? Pfffffffft :down: Thats what lost us the ashes.... :hmm: Just if we could clone Steve Waugh, 'sportsmanship and fair play' would be extinct.

I for one didn't know our erstwhile SH3 mod manager Beery was even english, I thought he was a yank with a strange cricket fixation or a thing for men in white. You live and learn..

Hmm. I thought sportsmanship and fair play were particularly Australian character traits - or at least it's part of your national myth that they are. I thought you prided yourselves on such things. I guess it just goes to prove that national myths and reality coincide infrequently. But is winning at any cost really winning? I'm not so sure.

Boo-hoo! Grab a tissue and have a good cry about it.

Surely Australia is free of the colonial yoke by now. I mean you got your independence ages ago. Surely you play with the big boys these days, and surely there's no 'allow' about it. Adults make agreements, and England is no longer the world's playground bully, so if Australia only gets a copy of the urn/trophy thingy, the Aussies must have agreed to that. If Australia was a child among the nations of the world you might have a point, but otherwise this part of your post just sounds petulant. I thought we poms were supposed to be the whingers. :lol: I mean in 18 months, when you Australians win the Ashes back, if I come on here with a similar attitude to the above quote, I'd never hear the end of it, and deservedly so.

I'm an Expat Brit Living in Australia. I have served both countrys in their respective Defence Force's. I always back Australia and the UK in any International Arena. So when its Australia V'S England all I ask for is a damn good contest and be damned who wins :)

I'm glad in away that English cricket is on the rise ( Finaly ) but sad that it was at our expense. But the good thing is this will only make the Australian's more determind. Every so often a swift kick in the pants does wonders! I freely admit I'm not an avard cricket fan like some here, even after I use to play for Fremantle Mercantile. All that realy matters to me is that the Lads in white do the best they can on the day and lets all see a game of cricket at its best - Australia V's England. It dont get any better than that.

I'm fortunate that 2 of my mates are very close to some of the Legens of Australian Cricket. 1 was an A Grade Umpire and the other knows a few via the Fish an Tackel trade ( seems some of our lads are keen fisherman ). So on the rare occasion I bump into these living legends and even they agree, its been a long road for English cricket and its now good for Australia to have some 1 worthy come up to bat.

I am too poor to have tissues with the taxes we pay for the English Royal family to have holidays here, I have to use toilet paper!

Colonial yoke? pfffffffft But we are a child among nations, we are only 200yrs old well 217 to be precise. (only 104 of those is officially Australia). WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH give us the Urn!!!

On a serious note, we only let you poms win so people wouldn't lose interest in cricket. :lol:

Yes I thought the exact thing except the thing about 'men in white'. Can you explain why that enter your mind? :rotfl:

An expat living in Australia,......... :hmm: who has a friend that knows an Aussie cricketers......... :hmm: ..... :hmm: ...we lost the Ashes :hmm: A.... :hmm: SPY is in our midst.....At last I have found the reason why we lost the Ashes, it wasn't because England played well, it was Cdr Gibs selling secrets.... :rotfl:


On a serious note... for Beery and other poms (pommie showers!! :lol: )
I hate to admit it but it was the best series ever that I have seen, and if we had to lose the Ashes, I must say that it couldn't have gone to a more worthwhile and spirited bunch of English cricketers

I think perhaps Australian sportsmanship was always predicated upon the notion that we could afford to be good sports because at the very least we could always count on beating England. Since we have lost the union and now the Ashes, our whole national identity is going arse over tit. :lol:

:hmm: What is Union? we have AFL and 'wogball' sorry fussball, mean football (had to be politically incorrect) here in Adelaide or nothing....Geez all my fellow Aussies pandering to the English, what is going on?

Remember Steve Waugh (my mentor)

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what it says

ACCOUNTABILITY
When you make a mistake there are one of three things you should ever do about it.
1. Admit it
2. Learn from it
3. Don't repeat it

Just taking the p*ss, there's nothing unsportsmanlike about pointing out that we are still #1 on the official rankings. Union = Rugby Union. You're probably more familiar with Rugby League; Union is the version of rugby played at private schools and followed by lawyers and the like.

I don't have the figures in front of me, but I seem to remember the Aussies scoring pretty freely against the county sides between tests. Yet the same batsmen scoring centuries there couldn't reproduce it in the Tests.

It'll be interesting to see how well the they do against the World XI. They'll be burning to put in a good performance. The World XI will be stronger on paper than England, but they won't have anything like the same team spirit or tactical focus.

England had it really worked out how to bowl to the key batsmen. Even in the last test when Langer and Hayden both scored centuries the scoring rate was much slower than the Aussies needed to build up the momentum they're used to. Perhaps Freddie will pass enough of the tactics on.

No worries Mog, me was joking too about Union. Don't really know much about the 2 Rugby codes, but I am more familiar with I think Union (the one with hardly any stoppages). Anyhow as a Port Power supporter, must say congratulations on Sydney winning the AFL premiership.