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Sailor Steve

03-26-13 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2031660)

I'm not certain but centuries ago I believe it was a mix of carrying on the name and bloodline. Today perhaps just the name? I don't know. I have two beautiful brilliant daughters and I simply would not have it any other way. :up:

Centuries ago it was important for royalty and nobility. Peasants didn't even have last names.

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2031649)

He means it by the famed first paragraph. I can also say describe my fammily by tension and anger. It's not a filler, it's describing his background. And I can relate. I am displaying the same tension and anger I got from my fammily. You can't see it on the forum since I don't post in an angry mood, but it's there. His biggest mistake was, that he asumed everyone will see it like he sees it. But only those of us that were verbally abused by our own mothers can see it. Only those of us that can relate.

Good for you if you can't relate. But some of us had to cope with verbal and pshycological abuse (never physical though) that we would be better off unborn. That's his message. Such issues are carried over.

Everyone can relate to a dark family issue. Most, if not all, families are dysfunctional in one form or another. And on some level. Myself included. :yep:

Sailor Steve

03-26-13 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2031662)

I'll be sober, I promise

I'd rather have you be Betanov. :O:

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2031664)

Centuries ago it was important for royalty and nobility. Peasants didn't even have last names.

Yes sir. :yep: I don't think the emphasis is what it was. For me, I just wanted healthy kids.

Sailor Steve

03-26-13 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2031667)

Yes sir. :yep: I don't thing the emphasis is what it was. For me, I just wanted healthy kids.

When my wife was pregnant the second time, a friend asked me if I was hoping for a boy this time, I replied "No. With another girl we can use hand-me-downs."

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2031662)

Can we continue in about an hour or two.

I really need to go to the pub and don't want to be lost in all the replies when I get back. I'll be sober, I promise

I think I'm finished here. Everyone has their own perspective on this essay. Enjoy the pub!

Betonov

03-26-13 12:55 PM

oh look, wireless:D

With a last name Concrete, I really need a son.
I don't want children right now. If I grow old and childless I won't regret it. As long as I'm not alone. More than half of my generatione is allready with child, but it doesnt bother me. I need to see the world first. A reluctant adventurer. I survived my fammilies isuess and with a good woman they can be completely inhibited. The main reason I dont want kids is that I in no way feel I need them.

Sailor Steve

03-26-13 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2031679)

oh look, wireless:D

Remember, drinking and posting don't mix. I suggest you have a friend be your designated poster.

Betonov

03-26-13 01:06 PM

Sure, I migh OD on coffee and write a Skybird long thread and then go Tribesman on myself :O:

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 01:07 PM

Oh my...lol

ReallyDedPoet

03-26-13 01:09 PM

This is obviously a polarizing topic :yep:.

If this thread was about the benefits of having children, being a parent, I am sure we would have equally differing opinions. I am a father of three boys, and some days don't know if I am coming or going :doh:, but to be honest would not have it any other way. But that is my choice, others can follow their own dreams-choices.

I always wanted to be a Dad-Father, just needed to find someone to help me out in that department :), and I did, we have been together for close to 20 years now :sunny:.

As far as bad parenting, etc, there are many factors in the life and raising of a child. It truly does take a village-community to raise one. So, even those without children can have a huge impact on a child's life. Many teachers, coaches and community leaders have influenced me along the way, and for the most part in a positive way. And those who have not I have learned from as well.

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet (Post 2031691)

This is obviously a polarizing topic :yep:.

If this thread was about the benefits of having children, being a parent, I am sure we would have equally differing opinions. I am a father of three boys, and some days don't know if I am coming or going :doh:, but to be honest would not have it any other way. But that is my choice, others can follow their own dreams-choices.

I always wanted to be a Dad-Father, just needed to find someone to help me out in that department :), and I did, we have been together for close to 20 years now :sunny:.

As far as bad parenting, etc, there are many factors in the life and raising of a child. It truly does take a village-community to raise a child. So, even those without children can have a huge impact on a child's life. Many teachers, coaches and community leaders have influenced me along the way, and for the most part in a positive way. And those who have not I have learned from as well.

This topic is only polarizing for me because of the posted essay. It is just a very odd way to start a essay on not wanting children. "My family angry and...." I see the rest as filler. Some of it spilling over to other issues in his life. This is my interpretation of the essay. I question this particular person essay. The rest is just conversation.

mookiemookie

03-26-13 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet (Post 2031691)

This is obviously a polarizing topic :yep:.

But that is my choice, others can follow their own dreams-choices.

I completely agree. I had no idea people got so spun up over others' family planning choices. Anyone that passes judgement on whether a couple chooses to have kids or chooses not to should get their big nose out of others' business.

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 2031699)

Then keep the essays in the desk drawer and not on the interweb for all the world to read. :)

ReallyDedPoet

03-26-13 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2031694)

Yeah, I thought those particular comments were :dead::dead: and added nothing to the point of what he was trying to get across.

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet (Post 2031708)

Yeah, I thought those particular comments were :dead::dead: and added nothing to the point of what he was trying to get across.

But what was his point? To get off his chest what his upbringing consisted of or, truly interested in saving the planet? IMO, he was not really concerned with the latter. This information was in addition to his feelings/experiences concerning family and his perspective.

ReallyDedPoet

03-26-13 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2031711)

I think the latter, at least as the author sees it. And a big emphasis on the author part. I am sure if one looked ( and not very hard ) there would be much clearer and better articulated arguments.

AVGWarhawk

03-26-13 01:52 PM

I would agree.

Jimbuna

03-26-13 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2031667)

For me, I just wanted healthy kids.

Ditto :yep:

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