Sounds like an echo of what you were saying about Cain.

Got a citation for this? A lot of people talk about it, but I have not seen too many poll results that show that the majority of voters are against it.

But then I don't look at every poll out there. :D

Paul can NOT beat Obama - between foreign policy and his past of running a blatently racist periodical - no way he is viable.

Platapus - try here: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ealth_care_law

I'd vote Paul over Obama every day of the week. Shame that the right wing smear machine is trying to bury the only true conservative out there.

That's some pretty consistent data. :yep:

Thanks for the link

However you would need a breakown of those who oppose the bill because it went too far and those who oppose the bill because it was too much of a compromise, as one consistant complaint is that it doesn't achieve what it was set out to achieve.

Not to mention that Rasmussen has a history of shoddy polling methods. I'd be strongly suspicious of any of their numbers:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...rmed-strongly/

Gee a New York times opinion piece thinks someone isn't leaning left enough. Go figure. :dead:

The only poll that really counts is the one next November 7th and even that one is not likely to be accurate given the reports of election rigging.

First of all, it's not a "New York Times opinion piece", it's Nate Silver's blog which was bought out by the NYT and he's a statistician...and a pretty good one at that. If you can dispute any of the claims he makes, then do so. By just waving your hands and saying "oh it's a NYT opinion piece" you add nothing. Do you have an explanation why Rasmussen's polls are consistently wrong? Can you explain why they're always the outlier when compared to other polls?

obama is not even qualified to run under his own cosponsored house bill re mccain. his father was british. he is not natural born as he has dual allegiance, not allowed. why is NO ONE BRINGING THIS UP???? HE CAN'T RUN! A FRAUD FROM THE WORD GO.

Let's see...you can argue about the birth certificate some more if you like, but until you prove otherwise the fact that he was born in Hawaii of an Amercan mother does indeed make him a natural-born citizen.

But it's ok when you wave your hands and say "oh it's a FOX article"?

As for the rest of it, how the heck do I know why, assuming that it's true, you think Rasmussen polls are "outlier".

Like I said we'll see what the results of the only poll that matters some time soon after November 7th 2012. Maybe later if Obama or Romney pulls an Algore and tries to get the courts to invalidate the election results.

What Steve said.

Now if you don't like it and want to do something about it then you have two choices. A. Prove (and I mean really prove not just imply) your claims.

or

B.Start a successful revolution and then you don't have to worry about such legal niceties.

It's a sad state of affairs when polls sway opinions rather than do what they were ideally meant for, show what people think.

Thank god we have people like you around.

1. To imagine that the Illinois Board of Elections missed this in 1997 when Obama ran for State House.

And they missed this in 2005 when Obama ran for Senator

And they missed this in 2008 when Obama ran for POTUS.

All the reviews made by state and federal election officers. All the research done by opposing candidates just looking for something to prevent Obama from running... every one missed it. But you know the "real" truth.

So, I assume you have written to the Illinois Board of Elections, with your evidence, and lodged a complaint right? I mean you clearly have evidence right?

2. Or perhaps, just perhaps you don't really understand what you are talking about?

I am leaning more to the second explanation.

It is because people look toward poll results as a tool to form their own opinions or to be more accurate to validate their opinions.

Every notice that a poll that disagrees with MY opinion is flawed somehow but those polls that agree with my opinion reflect the people's true feelings.

Weird huh? :D

Like August said, there is only one poll that really matters and that is on the second Tuesday in November and according to the history of that poll about 50% of the people really don't care one way or the other.

No, it's fun to just disagree with you :haha:

Using the state of Illinois as a credible vetting body is like using Natalie Wood as a swimming instructor.

Not knowing if this last November elections are a barometer for the electorate's opinion.

And the both of you are correct once it comes to the election.

Iowa bump.

I made not agree with the Republican candidates on a lot of things but I do agree with Gingrich when he says that attack ads "clutters the ability of the American people to have an adult conversation"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16400081

Now it is official. Obama is done. The ultimate authority has spoken, through the Brujo Mayor.

SOURCE

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