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Oberon 08-07-11 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1722974)
Yep, always good to 'learn quickly'.....let us hope it happens here on SubSim too :sunny:

No promises Jim, lots of smoke and very little fire around, imports from Finland, OTH you know how it is.

Jimbuna 08-07-11 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1722977)
No promises Jim, lots of smoke and very little fire around, imports from Finland, OTH you know how it is.

Rgr that Jamie :yep:

Tribesman 08-07-11 04:46 PM

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Police in force at Enfield, and the local railway station is either closed or just heavily guarded, info is sketchy.
Why are those people who got arrested trying to loot a jewelers and chemist in Enfield not black, I could have sworn someone said it was negros:03:

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However, it's too early to call this event at Enfield a riot
Same with the events in brixton so far, turns out it was two groups of yoofs throwing bottles at each other.

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one thing you can say for the force, they learn quickly.
Possibly not, looks like bad timing on making the latest announcement on the shooting, you would have thought after menendez got killed they would have learned to try and get the basic things straight before they made statements.

Oberon 08-07-11 06:32 PM

If the latest reports on the shooting are true then it'll really put the wind up people, and no mistake. Latest reports indicate that it's mainly opportunistic looting across the area now, and some reports are indicating that there is looting in Brixton, Edmonton and Walthamstow. There's also reports of rioters moving from area to area by car which is making them hard to track. There's been at least one stabbing, but not fatal. All in all though it's not as bad as Tottenham, the police have had a better response time in defusing large scale trouble, however that has meant that those responsible have now split into smaller scale looting/raiding parties and spread out across the area, which makes it very hard to get to. One cannot secure every single HMV in London!

Snestorm 08-07-11 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammi79 (Post 1722808)
Genetically speaking the entire world should be encouraging native Africans to spread their genes the world over since they contain 95% of the genetic variation of the entire species, which is what we're going to need when the big killer bug comes around, or when environmental and climatic changes exceed our capacity to adapt.

I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people causing this violence were born in Britain and speak English as their first language, in actual fact they are as British as you are mate.

Nationality has nothing to do with it.

You realy are an anti-white turd, aren't you?
Do I detect a black-supremacist?

If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?
I hardly think so, and I hardly think the japanese would think so.
Where one lives, is changable. What one is, is not.
I'm not british, and I'm not your mate.

Nationality has everything to do with it.
Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners. Europe for everybody?!
Over my dead body!

Stealhead 08-07-11 07:48 PM

You know for guys like Snestorm there is a perfect site where you can talk to people like minded all day all night and you can say what you truly feel and not violate that forums rules.

It is Subsim for White Supremacists it is called Stormfront http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29. You should take a look at it Snestorm you will cry with tears of joy.Though I strongly suspect that you are already a member and are merely spreading your ideologies though not overly successfully.

By the way just because people do not agree with the idea of white supremacy that does not make them "commies".Any person who follows any "one race is superior" we should all be separated is a fool.I"d actually like to see an experiment where they actually did have a group of a "pure" race and had them all live in one large city.They would have the same problems any other society has.

Sailor Steve 08-07-11 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1723047)
You realy are an anti-white turd, aren't you?
Do I detect a black-supremacist?

What you fail to detect in your quest for hatred is someone who sees the truth - that there is only the human race. Your need to blame everything on someone else just to feel adequate (I wouldn't say superior) is beginning to wear thin. To find the real enemy you need to look in the mirror.

Stealhead 08-07-11 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1723071)
What you fail to detect in your quest for hatred is someone who sees the truth - that there is only the human race. Your need to blame everything on someone else just to feel adequate (I wouldn't say superior) is beginning to wear thin. To find the real enemy you need to look in the mirror.

Well seeing as mirrors a tools made by the muds to confuse the pure Aryan mind Snesstorm does not own one.

If you ask me the real "powers that be"(who are various humans not one given race) their most effective weapon is divide and conquer.

Snestorm 08-07-11 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1723071)
(I wouldn't say superior)

Neither do I. Thank you.

Hottentot 08-08-11 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1723047)
Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.

Yes! And Britannia for the Britons! Down with the Jutes! Drive them back to the sea! Who is with me?!

Sailor Steve 08-08-11 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1723133)
Yes! And Britannia for the Britons! Down with the Jutes! Drive them back to the sea! Who is with me?!

Let's see. I come from Saxon stock, so I shouldn't have invaded Angle-Land. I have a recorded ancestor who was actually a Norman, so I guess I invaded Anglo-Jute-Saxon-Briton Land a second time. My first recorded American ancestor was actually a Brit who somehow managed to get here right in the middle of The Revolution. My people killed the horrible Red Injuns, except for the two who were of that persuasion. I had ancestors on both sides of the Civil War, including one who owned slaves. I'm English, German and native, and who knows what else.

I guess you could say that I'm the lowly immigrant who shouldn't be there, and the evil oppressor of the masses, all at the same time. I'm as mongrel as they come. The fact that I look the way I do means nothing to me. I'm a musician, which means my heroes are people like Jimi Hendrix and Chuck Berry, Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton, Chet Atkins and Stanley Jordan. Love only my "own kind" and half those names disappear. I would love to play bass for B. B. King just once.

One of my closest friends had a grandfather who came straight from Sicily, joined the army and fought Moros in the Philippines, then turned around and became the big man in the Utah mafia (gasp!) in the 1920s. So he's an evil foreigner too, except he gets no slack from any side, because technically he's white. And even as a Sicilian he's an outsider. His family name indicates that his ancestors emigrated to Sicily from Russia.

Another good friend is black. But he's all American and hates Africans. At least he's intelligent and humble enough to admit his hatred is irrational. We became friends after we found out we're both interested in all different kinds of history. His favorite line: "You can tell me any kind of racist joke, as long as you make me laugh."

So my biggest intolerance is for people who are intolerant. Setting yourself up as different only isolates you from a lot of good people. People who just might be better than anybody you hang out with now.

Tribesman 08-08-11 02:41 AM

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If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?
It would depend entirely on Japans citizenship laws and your own legal status


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Nationality has everything to do with it.
Brilliant, the master race has gone on through the nonsense of pigmentation to an entirely made up category as being definitive.


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Latest reports indicate that it's mainly opportunistic looting across the area now
Oberon, that is all it really was in the first place. There are always element that are ready to jump at any opertunity for violence or thieving, there always has been and there always will be.

jumpy 08-08-11 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1723037)
If the latest reports on the shooting are true then it'll really put the wind up people, and no mistake.


Are you referring to what I heard on R4 this morning - about the bullet recovered from the injured policeman's radio in the original shooting incident? It was described as 'police issue'. There's zero mention of this on the bbc news website so far and could potentially change the whole situation, freebooters notwithstanding.

Sammi79 08-08-11 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1723047)
If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?
I hardly think so, and I hardly think the japanese would think so.
Where one lives, is changable. What one is, is not.
I'm not british, and I'm not your mate.

Nationality has everything to do with it.

Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.



Hmmm it appears you have been suspended so I reply in the hope that you will lurk and see this anyway. Your post contains some serious contradictions and as insulting as you tried to be, only serves to reveal your own true 'colours' as it were. I will try and answer your question as it is reasonably put. If your child 1) is born in Japan 2) learns Japanese as the first language 3) goes to Japanese school 4) grows to the age of adulthood in Japan, I would have to ask him/her what nationality they felt they belonged to and I'd put money on them saying they thought of themselves as 'Japanese' even missing out 2) i.e you enforced English as the first language. If they then stayed in Japan and had children of their own, would you still think of your grandchildren as not Japanese?


Now to your contradiction sir. You state 'Where one lives is changeable' well not if you have your way huh, Mr '
Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.' so where YOU live is changeable, but where someone who came from a different country is concerned they should all stay where they are? That is a really grotesque hypocrisy you're carrying with you there.

I must say that I am sorry for my incorrect assumption of your nationality being British, It's just you seem so passionate about the subject it was an easy mistake. Do you live in Britain then perhaps? I think I should also explain that in English the word 'mate' though normally used as a term of affection, can like in the case of my previous post, be used as an overtly polite term to include someone whom one finds offensive, mate.

Back on topic, again nationality has nothing to do with the continuing disturbances in central London, its basically a bunch of unruly kids vandalising whatever happens to be nearby, mixed with a few probably older criminal types taking the opportunity to loot whatever they can, I am being depressed at the amount of people trying to justify these criminal actions by blaming the 'strained relationship' between the police and the community, this is simply not true, these kids are out of control because we as a society we are too light on them. Kids are smart - thay are genetically pre-disposed, even designed to manipulate the adults around them. Teachers can no longer discipline children in schools. Kids under 18 can't be convicted like adults. The kids learn this and then abuse it to their own ends, quite naturally as they were in effect born to do. This anti-social behaviour then carries on into young adulthood having never been properly checked. Our education system and government is worthy of most of the blame, and to the parents the rest.

Oberon 08-08-11 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jumpy (Post 1723234)
Are you referring to what I heard on R4 this morning - about the bullet recovered from the injured policeman's radio in the original shooting incident? It was described as 'police issue'. There's zero mention of this on the bbc news website so far and could potentially change the whole situation, freebooters notwithstanding.

Indeed it is what I refer to. It seems there is the possibility that Mr Duggan did not fire at police at all, alternatively, there is also the possibility, which cannot be ruled out, that Mr Duggans weapon was police issue and stolen from them in the past. It's too early to say yet...however I'd wager that most people will latch onto the former possibility to disregard the latter...and that means there's going to be even more anger amongst protestors in Tottenham, and the freebooters are going to feel even more justified at attacking a society that in their minds does little more than shoot at them periodically.

Paul Riley 08-08-11 12:58 PM

As predicted it looks like trouble is flaring up again this evening with riots spreading throughout various areas of the capital and a number of vehicles also reportedly burnt.Its also becoming more apparent as the scenes unfold that a lot of the officers sent in to deal with the disgusting anarchists have not been given adequate training for such events.
In my opinion soldiers (or possibly the TA) should be sent in now to assist the police,but how the hell can they when this evil moronic government is getting them killed in the middle East?.
I think this is going to spread eventually throughout the entire country,then we'll be in deep trouble!.

STEED 08-08-11 01:25 PM

Everything the police dose gets slammed by the PC lobby that has caused our nation problems, round them all up and place them in the middle of the scum who are out to break the law. Just watch them shout out for help from the police.


I say its time to send in the scoops!

(Soylent Green)

Paul Riley 08-08-11 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1723505)
Everything the police dose gets slammed by the PC lobby that has caused our nation problems, round them all up and place them in the middle of the scum who are out to break the law. Just watch them shout out for help from the police.


I say its time to send in the scoops!

(Soylent Green)

To be honest i'm gutted mate at whats happening to our country :cry:
The enemy within,has been for years.They have basically waited (and it makes sense from a criminal's/terrorist's perspective) until the country is at its lowest ebb both militarily and financially to then engage in all out guerilla style attacks.

Tribesman 08-08-11 01:33 PM

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the disgusting anarchists
So its anarchists now,I bet that is a relief to them nasty immigrants and londoners with dark skin.

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In my opinion soldiers.....
So in your opinion the police don't have enough training in law enforcement when it comes to public order offences so you want to send in the army who errrr..... have even less:rotfl2:

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the hell can they when this evil moronic government is getting them killed in the middle East?.
Interesting, where exactly in the middle east is your evil moronic government getting its soldiers killed?
Did some squaddie get squashed under a crate of duty free cigs in Cyprus or something?

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They have basically waited until the country is at its lowest ebb both militarily and financially to then engage in all out guerilla style attacks.
Yes its an evil plan to get teenagers to bring down Sainsburys and Halfords so they can take over the world of groceries and car accesories

Paul Riley 08-08-11 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1723512)
So its anarchists now,I bet that is a relief to them nasty immigrants and londoners with dark skin.



So in your opinion the police don't have enough training in law enforcement when it comes to public order offences so you want to send in the army who errrr..... have even less:rotfl2:


Interesting, where exactly in the middle east is your evil moronic government getting its soldiers killed?
Did some squaddie get squashed under a crate of duty free cigs in Cyprus or something?

God not you again,get lost! You arent drawing me in for a second time :stare:
You know,there would have been a time when you would have been shot for what you have said about Britain.You support the IRA do you?

Sorry folks,and moderators.


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