All the above is true, and I don't completely disagree on the death penalty part for child molesters, though sometimes I think that might be a bit to lenient.

But men who rape little girls don't necessarily like women, and men who rape little boys don't necessarily like men. And if you could establish a correlation in a percentage of cases it doesn't necessarily follow that it's true in all cases. You consider homosexuality to be an abomination, partly because the Bible says so and partly because the idea disgusts you. That said, it's no reason to think that all gays are going to attack children. We punish offenders, not people we think are likely to be offenders. And we punish people for crimes committed, not for real or imagined "sins".

Here's a hypothetical: Suppose you can prove you are right. What is your answer? Ban gay marriage, sure. But what about homosexuals themselves. What do you want to do with them?

Going from this point to saying every change is an improvement, is a thin line that a few people cross gleefully, with a level of self-exaltation bordering on absurdity.

So you think discrimination and bigotry do have a place in our society?

That is why clearly defining the term 'homosexual' is essential. I personally
use the term to refer to adult males who engage in a sex/lewd act with
persons on the same sex. Children and adolescents (generally speaking) are already under to much pressure to experiment or may circum to seduction to firmly label them.
Whoever, it is the agenda that is the most sinister threat to Americans morality.

I thought the term 'homosexual' was already clearly defined. :hmmm:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homosexual

I am currently working on North Carolina

Gathering:
1.) total male population (?)

2.) breaking down the registered sex offenders (16337 total)

3.) 200,000 total homosexual population (provided by vendor)

Here is why terms are important. Can you imagine having some scum
like this Dr. Judith Reisman tell you child molesters are beneficial.

The link between homosexuality and pedophilia is rejected by many mainstream research groups, which have even begun to view pedophilia in value-neutral terms. The American Psychiatric Association removed pedophilia from its list of sexual perversions in 1994, while in 1999 the American Psychological Association published a report, "A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples," which "claimed child sexual abuse could be harmless and beneficial," according to a 1999 WorldNetDaily column by noted researcher Dr. Judith Reisman.

And why it is hard work getting to the real facts on this issue, the top
is so rotten to the core.

ZeeWolf

@ Sailor Steve : Honestly ?
Yes.
If bigotry and discrimination can keep people away from 1. acting odd due to their recent recognition in the media 2. caring about problems that are not problems really, but no more than the latest modish fad - to be forgotten next week - about to make people argue again and again with no good result to be expected in the end as that cause has no essential purpose, I say I'm all for bigotry and discrimination.

I'm not saying I'm against gays and lesbians, I've got no problems with them - as long as they stay away from me. They have always existed, and always will. I'd just like them to stay as tactful as I do regarding the love one person wishes to bring to another. That's why I can't see where's the need to bring that kind of news in the front page of your media.

Well, I wish whoever wants to get shackled.. err married good luck and all the best.. :D

I just hope they also put provisions for (gay) divorce into the law, too. :O:

well and also the fact that you can' confuse a pedophile with a homosexual.

:har::har::har:
Not able to even check his own sources!
Condemning Reisman as scum, when she is actually on his side: priceless :rotfl2:
Reisman makes a statement in the column against painting child abuse as harmless, as what she sees is done in the 1999 report. For the slow reader: check out what "according to" means.

Zeewolf is a non-amusing troll, as he is nothing special. He just shows the signs typical of conspiracy guys:

- being one of the chosen few who is enlightened to understand the conspiracy; secret wisdom ("we know what the mainstream media doesn't know")
- concentrating on single statements from individuals to denounce a whole group
- pseudo-scientific research": concentrating on faulty and unclear single aspects of topics, to show that the whole topic is false
- inability to provide scientific sources, inability to back up claims
- pattern thinking: (us vs. Marxists), everybody defending a group, is one of them
- diversity tactics: first we had gay marriage, now we are at child abuse
- inability to discussion, just giving statements to bait people, but not able/willing to have an exchange

Nah, he just hasn't been laid in a loooong time. Spider webs all over his prostate. And the last time he went out only a blind guy came up to him and said: sunshine, how about you and me wake up the neighbours with the music of our sweet loving

It's queer.

What does this post have to do with this thread's topic?

Are you taking Troll lessons from Tribesman?

You both play the same record, over and over again, regargless of topic.

Interesting.

It's front page news because some people keep trying to repress it. If it had been accepted all along there never would have been any news. It's the bigots and haters who force people to respond radically, then complain the loudest about "those people" wanting "special priveleges".

Exactly

OK here is some basic stats that I will use to establish the fact
that the "homosexual" has a much greater population of child molesters
(per capita) then the heterosexual population does even though
we are mislead into believing that child molestation is a heterosexual
thing and the "homosexual" is just miniscule.

Found here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of
sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against
male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of
gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is
approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether
the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is
related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males
preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities
to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various
groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into
consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per
offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual
pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1.
This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles
among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater
than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of
course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a
greater propensity to offend against children.

This is more very revealing data here:
http://www.cpiu.us/statistics-2/
it includes the following excerpts:

A 1994 National Institute of Health survey of 453 pedophiles, conducted by
Dr. Gene Abel, showed these criminals were collectively responsible for the
molestation of over 67,000 children. That***8217;s an average of 148 children per
individual pedophile.

The statics that should be readily available to establish clear and concise
numbers concerning the male predators to male child victims is not easy
to compile or obtain and probably because this data would be so damming
to the sexual pervert's agenda to legalize all consenting sexual behavior
between adults and children. And, this sick agenda I am willing to prove
exists and a part of this "Gay marriage"movement. But one thing at a time :D

to be continued...

ZeeWolf

Listen Pigwind this all I know about conspiracy:
conspiracy
n. pl. .cies 1. The planning of two or more persons to do an evil act; also, the plan so made. 2. An acting together: a conspiracy of the elements.

Absolutely nothing complicated about it. But again another term "conspiracy" is meant to silence and attack anyone the Angels of light
condemn. I want to know what are guys like you going to do when your
tactics fail and fail they will. People are waking up and seeing things they
thought they would NEVER see. And experiencing things they where promised would never happen again. I hope I can be the first warn you
that Americans will rise to face any and every threat and at that time
they will resort to some old school thinking. And guys like you won't like it.

But it's needed

ZeeWolf

Because with people like you it is so easy to just ridicule your nonsense in the same manner again and again and it is always accurate regardless of which conspiracy, bigotry or hate you are pushing in that particular topic.

True, I never thought I would see so many dumb asses in the 21st century. But kooky khristian kranks still exist

In case you ZeeWolf have not yet realised this "Breivik" so often used in this discussion is reference to Anders Behring Breivik. A man suspected on 2011 Norway attacks including bombing in Oslo, which left atleast 7 dead, and attack to youth camp in Utøya, which left atleast 86 dead.