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Jimbuna 11-30-10 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1543970)
IMHO poor tactics by the Poms in the end - they should have batted through to the end to really play mind games with the confidence of the Aussies (and tire them out before the next game in a few days).

*Although we really need to get some bowlers with balls.

Questions already been asked at this end Jaesen.....he wanted the bowlers get a bit practice in and prevent them going a little 'rusty' :yep:

I concur with your last statement though :DL:03:

JScones 12-01-10 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1544371)
At least us Brits proved we're not simply 'fairweather' supporters....

Hmmm, having read some of the English headlines after day 1 and 3, I'm not sure I could possible agree with you there. For example:

"These are our national default positions: gloating and gloom," The Times newspaper announced in its headline.
"The local press were full of it," the paper continued.
"This England side thought they were good, but they're crap.
"Same old bloody Poms.
"England’s heart had been ripped out, apparently.
"England were on their knees. That was just the local Courier-Mail."
The Daily Express’s headline announced ‘‘England’s galah performance’’ — complete with a photograph of the native pink parrot.
The paper exclaimed England’s ‘‘feathers are ruffled by the Aussies’’ and described Matt Prior as ‘‘sick as a parrot".
‘‘If one moment symbolised the folly of our batting it was Prior’s dismissal,’’ the Daily Express said.

Etc and so on. Feel free to read more here... http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/...-1225961264583

Hardly the words of strong loyalty and support through thick and thin, eh? ;)

TarJak 12-01-10 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by badhat17 (Post 1543532)
Looks like the bocs have been written off by their own fans already, a shocking turn out. The gulf in class between these two sides is now becoming evident.

I'd disagree with this position. Both sides copped a caning from their respecive press during various stages of this test. If anything should be written off it is the pitch prepration in BNE. See Jason's comment below:
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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1543970)
^ I was going to ask the same thing; it's a term badhat17 has used a few times. The only "bocs" I'm aware of are the RSA "Boks" that play Rugby Union. :hmmm:

IMHO poor tactics by the Poms in the end - they should have batted through to the end to really play mind games with the confidence of the Aussies (and tire them out before the next game in a few days). As it is, the Aussies took the opportunity to come out and prove, at least to themselves, that it wasn't superior batting by the Poms, but moreso a crap pitch that made the real difference*. On that pitch, even a blind man knew that there was no chance the Poms would bowl the Aussies out before stumps.

Had the game been unlimited time wise, I think we'd be playing for another two weeks before we got a result...

*Although we really need to get some bowlers with balls.

Even good bowlers need some assistance from the pitch at time. I'd also say they need support from their fielders. Both sides missed some sitters during this test and the luck certainly swung both ways right though the test.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1544371)
I meant to post that earlier....how very embarrassing for the home side, they deserved a lot better from the very supporters they have given so many good memories to :nope:

At least us Brits proved we're not simply 'fairweather' supporters....especially as seeing how many thousands some of them will have paid for travel, tickets and accomodation :DL

I've recently found out that a friend of my brother-in-law booked through the ECB travel scheme and the cost for staying in the same hotel as the team and 3 tests amounted to £5500.

Now if it were not for the new posting (commenced Sept this year) and add a travelling companion I would have tempted me :hmmm:

If you want to save some money you're welcome to my spare room anytime mate. I won't invite you to share a room again after Houston though.:D:O:

Jimbuna 12-01-10 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1544599)
Hmmm, having read some of the English headlines after day 1 and 3, I'm not sure I could possible agree with you there. For example:

"These are our national default positions: gloating and gloom," The Times newspaper announced in its headline.
"The local press were full of it," the paper continued.
"This England side thought they were good, but they're crap.
"Same old bloody Poms.
"England’s heart had been ripped out, apparently.
"England were on their knees. That was just the local Courier-Mail."
The Daily Express’s headline announced ‘‘England’s galah performance’’ — complete with a photograph of the native pink parrot.
The paper exclaimed England’s ‘‘feathers are ruffled by the Aussies’’ and described Matt Prior as ‘‘sick as a parrot".
‘‘If one moment symbolised the folly of our batting it was Prior’s dismissal,’’ the Daily Express said.

Etc and so on. Feel free to read more here... http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/...-1225961264583

Hardly the words of strong loyalty and support through thick and thin, eh? ;)

Hah!....the good old British press, anything to sell a newspaper and the same diatribe as handed out by both sides respective media machinery I believe (confirmed by TJ below) :yep:

No, I was referring to the real 'supporters'...the ones who travel to a match and put bums on seats, money in gate receipts. :03:

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1544632)
I'd disagree with this position. Both sides copped a caning from their respecive press during various stages of this test. If anything should be written off it is the pitch prepration in BNE. See Jason's comment below:
Even good bowlers need some assistance from the pitch at time. I'd also say they need support from their fielders. Both sides missed some sitters during this test and the luck certainly swung both ways right though the test.

If you want to save some money you're welcome to my spare room anytime mate. I won't invite you to share a room again after Houston though.:D:O:

Yeah, I doubt your missus would be impressed if she had to sleep in the spare room whilst we shared the matrimonial bed :DL

TarJak 12-01-10 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1544812)
Yeah, I doubt your missus would be impressed if she had to sleep in the spare room whilst we shared the matrimonial bed :DL

:har:

Jimbuna 12-01-10 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1545028)
:har:

Patrick Fitzwilliam and William Fitzpatrick and all that :DL

TarJak 12-02-10 03:15 PM

^Ignoring obvious inyerendo....:03:

The 2nd Test starts today in Adelaide. Lets hope the pitch provides something for the bowlers and that the Aussies can claw back some pride.

badhat17 12-02-10 07:18 PM

TAXI FOR KATICH !

TAXI FOR PONTING !

TAXI FOR CLARKE !

England are ripping through the boc batsmen right now !

TarJak 12-03-10 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by badhat17 (Post 154581)
England are ripping through the boc batsmen right now !

And again who are the boc?

papa_smurf 12-03-10 11:05 AM

Poor batting from the aussies, excellent bowling from England - What more could you ask for:D

badhat17 12-03-10 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1545967)
And again who are the boc?

Again ? Sorry I must have missed the question before, but it's been really busy here what with all these boc wickets falling and endless replays to watch.
Anyhow the bocs are the Australian cricket team.

Looking forward to seeing the England batsmen post a massive first innings total tonight !

Jimbuna 12-03-10 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1545654)
^Ignoring obvious inyerendo....:03:

The 2nd Test starts today in Adelaide. Lets hope the pitch provides something for the bowlers and that the Aussies can claw back some pride.

The pitch certainly did offer something for the bowlers but the Aussies weren't able to claw back much of anything :DL

Did you see Ricky 'The One' let his claws out at the close of play :o

Must be running out of dummies soon if he's going to keep spitting them out http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1...kdummyht41.gif

TarJak 12-03-10 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by badhat17 (Post 1546215)
Again ? Sorry I must have missed the question before, but it's been really busy here what with all these boc wickets falling and endless replays to watch.
Anyhow the bocs are the Australian cricket team.

I gathered that, however am still in the dark as to where the name comes from. I've never heard of them referred to as the bocs by anyone prior to you in this thread and I've been following Australian cricket since the early seventies.

Jscones mentioned earlier than the only Boks he's aware of are the South African rugby team which stems from their emblem the Springbok. I'm in the same boat.

Maybe we are just ignorant convicts but I'm sure everyone would be much the wiser if you could explain where the name comes from.

Jimbuna 12-03-10 04:34 PM

A little harsh in my opinion :hmmm:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225965416431

Oh and I forgot to post earlier after Pontings latest duck/dismissal :DL

TAXI FOR PONTING!!

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/au...-500978886.jpg

TarJak 12-03-10 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1546223)
The pitch certainly did offer something for the bowlers but the Aussies weren't able to claw back much of anything :DL

Did you see Ricky 'The One' let his claws out at the close of play :o

Must be running out of dummies soon if he's going to keep spitting them out http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1...kdummyht41.gif

I dunno that the pitch was that much of a help to the bowlers. There seemed to be a bit more swing yesterday which is interesting because Adelaide is notoriously drier than Brisbane. I think the Aussie batsmen did themselves no favours with the run outs as well. I definately think that with the hot dry weather forecast the pitch will open up later on this test.

Here's hoping the bowlers can get some movement today and get some quick wickets to keep things interesting. Yesterday was much like England's first innings in Brisbane though, so I'd not start crowing until the fat lady has finished warbling.:O:

TarJak 12-03-10 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1546391)
A little harsh in my opinion :hmmm:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225965416431

Fairly typical. A week before the 1st test the same media were questioning the wisdom of the selectors for sticking with Hussey whose form was lacklustre in the games played earlier this year.

I agree though that it was harsh, but no doubt similar to the pommy journalism when Strauss failed in the 1st innings.

Jimbuna 12-03-10 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1546393)
I dunno that the pitch was that much of a help to the bowlers. There seemed to be a bit more swing yesterday which is interesting because Adelaide is notoriously drier than Brisbane. I think the Aussie batsmen did themselves no favours with the run outs as well. I definately think that with the hot dry weather forecast the pitch will open up later on this test.

Here's hoping the bowlers can get some movement today and get some quick wickets to keep things interesting. Yesterday was much like England's first innings in Brisbane though, so I'd not start crowing until the fat lady has finished warbling.:O:

There'll be no 'crowing' until the series has ended....I learned many a series ago that 5 tests is a bloody long time.

To the victor the spoils :DL

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1546397)
Fairly typical. A week before the 1st test the same media were questioning the wisdom of the selectors for sticking with Hussey whose form was lacklustre in the games played earlier this year.

I agree though that it was harsh, but no doubt similar to the pommy journalism when Strauss failed in the 1st innings.

I honestly don't take too much notice of the press because their main aim is to sell print/newspapers.

Too much hindsight for me.

JScones 12-03-10 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1546223)
Did you see Ricky 'The One' let his claws out at the close of play :o

Must be running out of dummies soon if he's going to keep spitting them out http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1...kdummyht41.gif

It's time for Ricky to retire...before he in inevitably pushed (although, with our selectors, that may never be likely).

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1546393)
I dunno that the pitch was that much of a help to the bowlers. There seemed to be a bit more swing yesterday which is interesting because Adelaide is notoriously drier than Brisbane. I think the Aussie batsmen did themselves no favours with the run outs as well. I definately think that with the hot dry weather forecast the pitch will open up later on this test.

Here's hoping the bowlers can get some movement today and get some quick wickets to keep things interesting. Yesterday was much like England's first innings in Brisbane though, so I'd not start crowing until the fat lady has finished warbling.:O:

Yes, as we've seen numerous times, you don't crow in Adelaide (bit of a pun there for AFL fans) until the end of day 5.

Of course, the difference here is that historically we've had the bowlers that could make the difference in the last session or so...

Jimbuna 12-03-10 08:16 PM

55-1 and Strauss gives the inevitable opportunity to the Old Enemy.....wake up in the morning and either cheer or jeer.

Goodnight http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/forum/i...es/gdnight.gif

TarJak 12-04-10 12:52 AM

Taxi for Strauss!
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/12/04/...auss-200x0.jpg

Not that there's been much joy since then England squarely on top with Cook and Pietersen batting well. The Australian attack is looking lacklustre with only Siddle and Bollinger showing any signs of life. I'm not sure about Doherty's selection but you have to play what you've got. And right now we don't have a lot.


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