Ironically, by doing that this man has imitated a very different characteristic of Hitler above nazism: He is crazy :haha:

@ Kissak

:nope: :nope: :nope:

Cultural and genetic supremacism as well as racism are inherent parts of Nazism, also, in order to establish the desired society and state that Nazism wants, the established democratic order that is defined and protected in our constitution in Germany and throughout the western world must be destroyed - you cannot realise Nazism within the frame of our constitution, thats why it was written the way it is: to never let come Nazism to power and infleunce again after the disaster it has brought over the world, and Germany. This overthrowing of constitutional order as well as a racism that agrees to not only discriminate but even drive away and kill certain other ethnicities or use them in a function of subordinate slaves, is what makes Nazism unacceptable, and has caused horror and terror in ammounts only rarely to be seen in history.

Either you understand this, or you don't, but I certainly do not endlessly discuss with somebody who is trying to establish a free room where Nazism can manouver and it's vitriolic mind seed can grow and blossom, over naive claims that it is all not so wild at all and just wants some foreigners out. Either you have a Nazi's agenda, or you simply have a far from complete understanding of what Nazism is, and then you better get some education about it, about fascism, and about the barbaric history of the third Reich, before making it appearing relatively harmless in a public discussion.

I save myself from dealing with the rest of that drivel of yours. For the time beeing, stay away from me. I neither like Nazis, nor people giving it any form of support or legitimation.

When August gets something right, he gets it right.

Distinguish insane..
 

True understatment. :down:

Wow, my post just went right over your head, didn't it? I never said the realisation of Nazi society was anything near OK, in fact I said the exact opposite: did you not see my feudalism example?



If an idea is bad, it can be defeated with reason. And nazi ideology can most certainly be defeated by reason. Nazi ideology can never succeed in a society that doesn't share its irrational fears.


You haven't dealt with any of my "drivel", Mr. Pot!


What has that got to do with me? Talk about being paranoid: anyone who doesn't hate what I hate to the same extent that I hate, is one of them!!!. Yes, three exclamation points. Because that's exactly what you sound like.

Your whole argument is based on the slippery slope. If it's a fallacy then so is your comparison of the Democrats and nazis or disallowing nazi propaganda leading to loosing the right of free speech.

If you think I was COMPARING Democrats with Nazies, you didn't read my post. I made a parallell example, for a completely unrelated group, in order to show how silly the reasoning was, blaming people today for whatever anyone did in the past, no matter how much or how little they prescribed to the same ideas.

Anyway, the slippery slope fallacy is this: "If we allow A, then B will follow". For example, many fundamentalist Christians say that if we allow homosexuality, then animal sex and paedophilia is next.

It is not a slippery slope fallacy, however, to point out that the law must be equal for all. If we make special provisions for certain groups, which groups are singled out and by what justification?

So what are main issu today?
 

Philosophize or prevent insane story!!

Groups which have shown by their actions what they are capabile of and those who continue to espouse similar "final solutions". By your reasoning enemy soldiers (which are exactly what neo nazi groups are) who have not yet killed should be immune from attack. Well sorry the world just does not operate that way and thank God for it. The enemy is the enemy. Pretending they are not is the only real fallacy here.

Oh and my solution for the nazis is completely fair and equal. Every one of them should be eliminated. There is no such thing as a good nazi.

True Words!
 

Thank you! :up:

It's amusing how the Germans, in their attempts to supress the memory of Nazism in Germany, have themselves become Nazis.:nope:

Yes,this was max penalty...
 

So in progression,I think he had to pay some money, for his behavior.....but hardly no jail,even if he deserve that.

<polemic mode on>
and now Ladies and Gentleman: we have a winner in Godwin's Law! Shall the calling each other "Nazi" begin?
*my right arm raises because as a German I cannot stop it*
From your signature I see that you are an US army veteran, does this make you a Nazi too? Regarding that the Nazi-US army together with other Nazi armys and Nazi-resistance fighters suppressed the poor Nazis?
</polemic mode off>

First of all: The guy, who had the Hitler-ringtone on his cell, will probably get not more than a fine, no jail time, no star on his jacket, no torture, no extermination, see the difference?
Second: I think the memory of Nazism in Germany is quite alive and healthy. You can inform yourself going to museums, memorial sites, talking to people who actually lived in this time.
Third: You can march and hail all you want in your private home in Germany, no one kicks your door in, no Gestapo takes you away - if you do it outside is a different story
Fourth: I'm all against censorship, we have ridiculous censorship laws here regarding nazi symbols and propaganda. You don't become a Nazi from looking at a swastika or reading a book. I even think the literary masterpiece "Mein Kampf" should be allowed here, prohibition makes it only interesting and the pro-Nazis can whine: "We are so suppressed!" However showing Nazi symbolism in the public is a kick into the face of all victims of fascist crimes and their families which we, believe it or not, have here in this Nazi country.
Fifth: give Nazis a place to live! Let them have their own land, maybe give them a hellhole like Leverkusen (ugliest town in Germany) - or whatever pice of land you can share. They can march all day or just sit around and hate. The problem is: they don't stop there. After getting bored with themselfes they like to expand and look for some "Lebensraum", or just beat down the next un-aryan person around them. We had this little experiment here, that they had their country, the result is well known.

I may disagree with Skybird in some matters, but he brought it exactly to the point: if you give the enemys of free speech the freedom to abolish it, they will try do so

If you have read the post above....
 

so are we talking just about, free speech in any kind,so once again,this is a part in a composition government,there all have allegiance for human right!

Of course...
 

They have plenty to work,so they can or will to solve this commen Q all the time,and the must stir-it up from begning,so this person did was a kind of alarm clock" to goverment.....

It's also interesting that people in the formerly occupied countries can see this so easily, while many germans themselves can not.

Indeed.:yep:

Suitable!
 

Stable and well-timed unrestricted,statment!

Maybe that is because American cities remained intact during the war, never where flown over by hundreds of bombers and turned into rubble, while in modern German cities today you still see the marks of the war, and many German families still have survivors or had survivors of the Nazi era until just recently.

You guys see it very biased and very simplistic from where you are. My main argument none of you have been able to neutralise, though. If you think this is so unfree a country, I recommend you just stay away and do never consider to visit Germany like during the world championship four years ago, where hundreds of thousands of people from foreign countries were intimidated by authorities to report how great and free a place this is - and how surprisingly different. ;) You might end up in police arrest over saying your foreign opinion, you know. and who knows what kind of terrors are happening in the cellars of the police station, in this supressive fourth reich of ours. ;)