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Mookie - you make a good point - but a single picture does not a connection make. However, attending a church for 20 years tends to make a stronger bond with the message that church sends. Posing for a picture is one thing, calling a man your long time friend means your a bit more tied to him.

Alot of the '08 - and current - views on O stem from his long time associations, as well as his own written words and his speeches.

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1375719)

You knew something like this was coming. Bonus points for style. :rotfl2:

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/S...-92091314.html

Wow, criminals smearing swastikas is "style." Gotcha. I assume it's also just "style" to you if some redneck POS does it on a synagogue as well? Or burns a cross on someone's lawn?

Yeesh.

:roll:

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1375745)

Wow, criminals smearing swastikas is "style." Gotcha. I assume it's also just "style" to you if some redneck POS does it on a synagogue as well? Or burns a cross on someone's lawn?

Yeesh.

:roll:

The beans is what did it for me. Yes, the message is a bit :roll: but...to do it in refried beans, man!

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1375740)

Twasn't just the picture. The past history of forwarding emails written by these neo-Nazi groups is what establishes the history of intolerance and hate.

So would writing anti-islamic hate be cool with refritos (think of the LARD :) ) or letters made out of bacon?

If you are one of those that believes in thought crime, erm, hate crimes, then that is clearly a hate crime, no?

It's interesting that the AZ protests have been far more unruly than the tea party people.

You'd think that the so-called "working people" (as if people who make much more while working 60-80 hours a week don't "work") would be against illegals since they are directly in competition for jobs that are even more limited now.

Illegals here don't work crap jobs like picking fruit, they work construction, etc.

A link to the version actually signed (there were 3 versions, and many on the left are attacking a bill that was not signed, apparently). Just in case the one I posted was not correct:

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....e-maps.doc.htm

17% of the illegals arrested while crossing in the Chiricahua corridor of AZ have criminal records in the US already. Not for previous crossing, but for actual crimes.

I think that there are legitimate concerns WRT to violating rights of citizens, however. The basic idea of actually enforcing immigration laws is a very good one, but this might need some tweaking.

Interesting article by a leading pollster:

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SCOTT RASMUSSEN
Immigration is one of the least understood issues in the country today. The political class thinks the major question is how to legalize the status of undocumented workers already in the country. However, most voters say those already in the country are a secondary issue. The real issue is how to stop or reduce illegal immigration.

And that’s the next point of misunderstanding. To the political class, the distinction between legal and illegal matters little. To most voters, it matters a lot. In fact, while seven voters out of ten say border enforcement is a higher priority than legalizing undocumented workers, most also favor a welcoming immigration policy. Nearly six out of ten say we should allow anyone in except criminals, national-security threats, and those who want to take advantage of the welfare system. By the way, Republicans are a bit more supportive than Democrats of a welcoming immigration system.