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jazman 03-12-10 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Placoderm (Post 1311310)
So yes, expect:

"New! Type IX upgrade available for only $14.99"
"New! Elite crew package w/ upgraded optics only $9.99"
"New! 6 new Merchant ships w/special FX only $14.99"
"New! Camo pack for type VII and IX only $9.99"


Hey, you got a Type VII for only $50, you ingrate.

:03:

PurpleCity 03-12-10 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Teabold (Post 1310912)
I guess, they will just claim the next patch to be compensatory.

I would totally accept a patch as compensation, I'd almost pay for one at this point.

JScones 03-12-10 11:38 PM

So, will those of you who were adamant that the blame for the server outages should lay exclusively at the feet of the hackers (at least one has posted in this thread) be saying "no" to the compensation that Ubisoft is offering? Or will you show your hypocrisy by grabbing Ubisoft's bone with outreached hands? Afterall, Ubisoft is not at fault, right? So wouldn't accepting compensation from them mean that you'd be benefiting off the actions of the hackers, that you so much despise? Surely you wouldn't want to do that, would you? :hmmm:

Just sayin'.

Nordmann 03-12-10 11:40 PM

I really don't see what sort of compensation they could feasibly offer, it almost certainly will not be a refund of any kind. Perhaps Uplay points?

magic452 03-13-10 02:05 AM

Just thinking here but if the server outage was indeed a hacker attack and you give out some kind of worth while compensation package just think what the next DDoS attack will be.?????

Attack the servers and get free stuff. :up:

Just a though

Magic

FIREWALL 03-13-10 02:48 AM

`10% off coupon for Prep-H :O:

Adriatico 03-13-10 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann (Post 1312274)
I really don't see what sort of compensation they could feasibly offer, it almost certainly will not be a refund of any kind. Perhaps Uplay points?

Free copy of SH3... so people can play singleplayer simulation.

Mr_Johnson 03-13-10 09:05 AM

Its gonna really be interesting to see what comes outta all of this :cool:

Uber Gruber 03-13-10 09:28 AM

A DRM free version of the game perhaps?

:rotfl2:

Conrad von Kaiser 03-13-10 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Adriatico (Post 1312424)
Free copy of SH3... so people can play singleplayer simulation.

If it was a copy that would work on my Vista 64bit machine I'd take it in a heartbeat lol

609_Avatar 03-13-10 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1312271)
So, will those of you who were adamant that the blame for the server outages should lay exclusively at the feet of the hackers (at least one has posted in this thread) be saying "no" to the compensation that Ubisoft is offering? Or will you show your hypocrisy by grabbing Ubisoft's bone with outreached hands? Afterall, Ubisoft is not at fault, right? So wouldn't accepting compensation from them mean that you'd be benefiting off the actions of the hackers, that you so much despise? Surely you wouldn't want to do that, would you? :hmmm:

Just sayin'.

:haha: Good point! :up:

Letum 03-13-10 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Conrad von Kaiser (Post 1312945)
If it was a copy that would work on my Vista 64bit machine I'd take it in a heartbeat lol

Any copy with out the starforce DRM will work in Vista 64 and win7 64.
That's almost every copy for sale these days.

java`s revenge 03-13-10 10:53 AM

That means that we have to pay for downloads thereafter? :wah:

Conrad von Kaiser 03-13-10 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1312965)
Any copy with out the starforce DRM will work in Vista 64 and win7 64.
That's almost every copy for sale these days.

I've tried every workaround, every tip and bit of info I could find and nothing would let me run SH3 on my machine. One day I plan on trying again but after spending three days of non-stop to try the last time I haven't built up the motivation again lol.

John Channing 03-13-10 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1312271)
So, will those of you who were adamant that the blame for the server outages should lay exclusively at the feet of the hackers (at least one has posted in this thread) be saying "no" to the compensation that Ubisoft is offering? Or will you show your hypocrisy by grabbing Ubisoft's bone with outreached hands? Afterall, Ubisoft is not at fault, right? So wouldn't accepting compensation from them mean that you'd be benefiting off the actions of the hackers, that you so much despise? Surely you wouldn't want to do that, would you? :hmmm:

Just sayin'.

Not sure if you are refering to me or not but the answer is two part...

1) (Again, if you are addressing me) I never said that "the blame for the server outages should lay exclusively at the feet of the hackers", so kindly stop putting words in my mouth. In fact if you actually read what I had posted, instead of jumping on the bandwagon, you would see otherwise.

2) It will depend entirely on what it is.

However I do get a chuckle out of the hate-ubisoft-no-matter-what-crowd, because at this point it seems like they could refund everyone's money, remove the DRM and publicly execute the Chairman and this crowd would still moan that it wan't enough.

JCC

HundertzehnGustav 03-13-10 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by John Channing (Post 1312984)
Not sure if you are refering to me or not but the answer is two part...

1) (Again, if you are addressing me) blahblahblah

LOL seems JScones calculated his shot pretty well, adressing nobody in particular, but getting soome response...

JSC+1:D

Even the ANNOUNCEMENT means that Ubisoft admits a screw-up.
and that OSP Users are bound for more scheisse of that kind.

LOL@all those that knew what was up, and now suffer despite better knowledge. No sympathy...
:arrgh!:

drtechno 03-13-10 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Channing (Post 1312984)
However I do get a chuckle out of the hate-ubisoft-no-matter-what-crowd, because at this point it seems like they could refund everyone's money, remove the DRM and publicly execute the Chairman and this crowd would still moan that it wan't enough.

JCC

Oooghaaa.. Ooooghaa.. :ping: fanboy ahead ! Man the torpedo room, dive dive !

Please, don't overexaggerate.

I guarantee that if they removed the DRM to something reasonable and got on with patching the game, most people would shut their mouths.

Its pretty much the majority opinion of users and the press that this DRM is unreasonable. Except for the few fanboys out there, I have yet to read an article on how this is a reasonable DRM solution. :nope:

janh 03-13-10 11:33 AM

Ubisoft has given us barebones of games in the past that modders turned into something very reasonable. SHIII+GWX is probably more than reasonable, but I don't know about SHIV+OM as I never bought it after the initial release disaster.

So I guess what most people simply here want, is at least nothing less than the previous releases in terms of both quality, and DRM hampering. I'm sure if Ubi announced to removed OSP DRM for single player games and replace it with something less hindering, than people would quickly be rather happy. The bugs in SHV from what I can just are with the exceptions of a few not very serious, and if the proposed high moddabilty is really what devs said it would be, then everything else will come into place if still enough serious modders are interested in SHV at this point (like the GWX team, for one single example out of many I cannot all credit here).

As for the bigger picture, of course a lot of customers are rightfully annoyed by Ubisofts OSP concept that in the end obviously hurt legal customers more than pirates. And for having repeated the "SHIV disaster release" mega-event instead of postponing until really thorough beta testing and content implementation would have been complete -- you get the point. If I had put my money into this game, I'd be a little unhappy too.
From there on, it is just nature of curiousity as to what will happen in the bigger picture. Whether many other customers concur with this view and it will show in the next Ubisoft quarter sales report, and overall sales, or whether actually most of the casual customers won't care. For my part, I see it as an experiment that Ubisoft performed (if you'd consequent on the point: an experiment on the customers), and as a scientist I am naturally curious as to the outcome.

Exakt 03-13-10 11:59 AM

In a way, I would like to see Ubisoft go the way that Relic (THQ) went with the Dawn of War Series. Basically, loyal and satisfied customers will buy the expansions (most of them are actually stand-alone expansions) to get access to the previous game and expansions units for MP play. Now, with the Steam activation, it makes it a viable option for both the customer and the publisher.

So bottom line is that Relic/THQ/Steam combo is getting you a large player-base, a DRM that ain't as draconian as Ubi's and allow the devs to make the game over a few years better and better. The original Dawn of War is probably one of the longest running engine and has most likely the most expansions released for a RTS game.

Faamecanic 03-13-10 12:17 PM

How about a key card a manual in COLOR that you can actually READ :hmmm:


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