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Bilge_Rat

03-03-10 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrgn (Post 1290201)

Nope, the estimated range is right on everytime....

Check it out:

what game settings are you using? is that with your custom keys?

I only see a range estimate when the XO gives me an estimated solution, like so:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/734/solution001.jpg

ddrgn

03-03-10 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 1290246)

what game settings are you using? is that with your custom keys?

I only see a range estimate when the XO gives me an estimated solution, like so:

Of course its modded keys, the devs never add this stuff straight out the box... Silent Hunter has always been this way.

Bilge_Rat

03-03-10 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrgn (Post 1290263)

Of course its modded keys, the devs never add this stuff straight out the box... Silent Hunter has always been this way.

ok, now I understand, we are talking about different things, you mapped and are using the old SH3 key where the WO would give you the range to the TGT. That range is always exact.

I was talking about the range the XO gives you in his estimated solution which is usually way off.

I will retest again the Stadimeter using your method. I really wish the manual would have this info and we did not have to guess what the proper method is. :damn:

ddrgn

03-03-10 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 1290283)

It is quite lame I already miss TMO's nice red lines ;]

ddrgn

03-03-10 01:16 PM

Something I found in the files:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/y...pedofiring.jpg

I dont see these icons much as I hardly use tdc on, it may be possible to just remove those graphics.

Galanti

03-03-10 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrgn (Post 1290429)

Something I found in the files:

I dont see these icons much as I hardly use tdc on, it may be possible to just remove those graphics.

Yep, but you're still performing the arcadish task of leading the periscope, just as you would lead a target over ironsights in BF2.

It doesn't really matter, I suppose I will just start with manual targetting, I've done it for years with fleet boats in RFB, but I actually like the way it's done in SH5, it's only the esthetics of the interface I have real problem with. I want my old book-style recognition manual at the bottom of the screen.

ddrgn

03-03-10 01:54 PM

Cool, I have been able to get the XO out of the Periscope screen.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/y...-03_134915.jpg

Just do this if you hate his face:

C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Menu\Skins\German\Gui\Crew

and change watchman.dds to watchman1.dds

and poof no more face :)

Bilge_Rat

03-03-10 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrgn (Post 1290429)

Something I found in the files:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/y...pedofiring.jpg

I dont see these icons much as I hardly use tdc on, it may be possible to just remove those graphics.

That screen is from the manual.

These lines which also show up in the screenshot I posted above only show up if you tell the XO to turn the TDC off and you lock a visual TGT, in which case these easy targeting lines show up.

If you leave the TDC on, (whether manual/auto, map updates on/off ) or do not lock the TGT when you turn the TDC off, these lines never appear, which is what I do, although I would love to get rid of them altogether in my instal.

malkuth74

03-03-10 03:14 PM

Hey DDRGN I hate to ask you of this but you seem smart. LOL,

Do you think you can come up with a tuturial on how to use the Manual TDC. When I mean Tuturial... Basically a TDC for dummies like me.

I can't stand the AUTO TDC.. So now I want to learn the Manual one... But all those things you said with math and stuff.... Well kinda went over my head. I think I almost felt sick.. LOL.

But you now start from the basics.

Or anyone for that matter. Us Old Auto Guys that can't stand the new system need a little more then connecting the dots. So thanks if you decide to help.

ddrgn

03-03-10 03:21 PM

Sure maybe a pictorial would help ;)

To be honest I learned everything I know from the guys here on Subsim.

Some of it basic, some it not so much.....

Give me a bit as I am still on the clock here hehe

Itkovian

03-03-10 03:39 PM

I second that: a SH5 manual TDC tutorial would be a godsend to a great many players.

Itkovian

sergei

03-03-10 05:11 PM

The fast 90 attack a la SH3 still works a treat.
I have been having great success with this.

Frederf

03-03-10 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1289980)

Yeah, but that line should have 5 syllables, not 7. :up:

I tried 7-5-7... is it 5-7-5? Dyslexia.

It's nice that after about 20 complete off topic phules rushed through blabbing about their pint-sized knowledge of manual targeting in an attempt to brag thinly disguised as advice some people took time out of their busy day, went back up, read the original post, and actually provided some information re: the point.

digitizedsoul

03-03-10 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by malkuth74 (Post 1289432)

Like to tell the devs something... When its not broke don't fix it. Auto TDC worked fine in the last 2 games. Why did you go and make this boehamouth carppy new system for.

Alright I played around with it a little a figured it out. You have to basically play connect the freaking dots with AUTO TDC. In this case connect the numbers.

Don't use TDC ON. Bad for auto...
1. Set your torpedo speed for it reaches the ship numbers on the Tac Map. Matters how close you are.

Now line up the closes two numbers to each other and push the stupid fire button.

Connect the dots. You have about a 75% chance of hitting it at this point.

Good luck.

What a crappy system.. My god nothing wrong with the old way,,, It made us feel special... Like we could do it, when we could not. This dot system is a freaking joke.

Now I have to learn manual.. Because Now it makes me feel to stupid... LOL.

Auto connect the dots they should call it. What a disgrace.

LOL Not only am I still laughing, but truer words were never spoken...

sergei

03-03-10 09:57 PM

Or you could use the Fast 90. Works a treat.

malkuth74

03-03-10 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sergei (Post 1291621)

Or you could use the Fast 90. Works a treat.

whats a fast 90. You got my attention.

sergei

03-03-10 10:33 PM

Yep, works.
Not quite as intuitive, cos you can't see the dials, but tell the annoying officer who pops up in the periscope your bearing, AOB, range and speed and it is a fast 90.

AOB changes to reflect your periscope bearing.

Again, you cannot see this diredctly. But I have checked. Change your bearing, then check the AOB, you will see it has changed to reflect the new AOB.

Johnyy

03-28-10 07:36 PM

Damn this is weird. I'm new to this sim and none of it is making sense. To return to the initial query, I have it set to auto and can't get any feeling for how to target

Mostly my torpedoes miss, but I have had one hit. Heres some of the problems:

Sometimes the torpedoes leave the boat on the same bearing of the boat

Sometimes they leave the boat at an angle

The gizmo for choosing the range of the target seems to have no options except match the shape of the ship - you move the mouse up and the overlaid image matches the target. But there seems to be no control over waterline or bridge roof height. Consequently the range to target never seems to change

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I thought this sim would be interesting, but it does not seem to behave in any kind of intuitive manner. Surely dumb torpedoes leave the sub in the direction it is pointing. So why do they go off at an angle if it is in anyway an accurate representation

kylania

03-28-10 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkuth74 (Post 1291675)

whats a fast 90. You got my attention.

"Fast 90" is when you set yourself up at a perfect 90 degree angle, around 800m from the path of travel of your target. Depending on it's speed you'll fire around 10-20 degrees before they reach 0 (depending on their direction of travel).

What's nice about this is three things. 1) range doesn't matter, it's all angles so range cancels out 2) you preset everything in your TDC and don't touch it. Set Range to 800, set AOB to 90, set speed to whatever they are moving at then 3) watch the Gyroangle. It'll read 000 when your periscope is pointing at the proper bearing so that whatever it's pointing at will be hit by the time that part hits 000 bearing from your ship. The torpedo simply swims in a straight line.

I'd posted a picture of this kind of attack in the screenshot thread.

Vikinger

03-28-10 09:00 PM

Its so easy in auto mode.

Dont get blinded of thos 1,2 .3 dots you se. They are ther just as a reference.

Se the lines as a measurement instead.

Imagine the lines as a measurment tape whit out the dots and numbers.

When the ships line cross yours at same point, let say 2,5 inces or, 2,5 cm (what you prefer), fire the torps.

Iol guess we soon will se a mod that converts thos 1,2,3 dot line to a measurement tape

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