Not gullible at all. Personal choice. I just don't have the patience for all that patching...installing mods....uninstalling mods....adding more patches etc.

I will purchase the game about nine months after its release and patch it and mod it once. It will cost me about $10 and the other $40 I will donate to subsim. :)

I bought SH3 after 1.2 and quickly realized I should have waited for 1.3.

After 1.3 it was as it could be considered releasable but by that I mean most all games have a retrospect required update and 1.4 should have been the only patch. 1.3 should have been the released version

So, I waited until 1.3 for SH4 and while that was OK as 1.3 1.4 may have improved deficiencies nothing could cure the simple fact the Pacific War being easier as it goes makes not a challenging game so one career and back to GWX3.

I will wait for 1.3 unless you pay to be beta testers report the game stable and CTD free earlier (I doubt UBI will wait for stability but one can dream)

Don't worry, most are too impatient to wait and I want to thank you all in advance for testing the game so the needed improvements will be there for me when I start running it.

Also, as hardware drops in price by the day i will be able to have better PC upgrades for that blessed SH5 first patrol.

The nice thing about getting old (60) is you finally start to have some patience.

Wulfmann

There's an old adage...
 

...that says "never buy the first version of anything". Not sure if it applies here given that SH5 is...well....the fifth in the series but I'll definitely wait based on the experiences with the last two games. SH3 + GWX fills the bill so SH5 would have to have some remarkable improvements or details for me to dust of my wallet.:D

Here's hoping (I'm still waiting for the definitive heavy bomber sim ala the Mighty Eighth too but that's another dream, LOL).:salute:

Brand Loyalty is Earned
 

I have mixed feelings about this.

First though, I have to say that I have only played SH3 since April 2008. I have not been involved in the series since the start and have not experienced many of the problems that people like TDK have experienced. I can imagine their frustration though.
The reason I bought SH3 instead of SH4 in the first place was the reviews of SH4 were full of the bugginess of the game and the number of patches needed to fix it. I thought SH3 was a better choice and I have not regretted that choice.
After joining these forums, I have learned about the mods that have made SH4 much more playable and a game worth buying. In fact, I have just recently purchased it. :DL

On the one hand, I want to support the genre and dish out the money on release day, even if the game may sit on the shelf for a bit. SH3 has brought many, many hours of enjoyment to myself and my son and many, many hours of frustration to my wife. :D

On the other hand(and I lean a lot more toward this view), I find it hard to run out on release day and plop down $30 for a product from a company that in the past has released a very buggy game(SH4) and had to release numerous patches within the first year or so. I don't like to spend money on a bad product, whatever it may be, and have to wait for patches/fixes/mods to make it a good product. Now I don't expect perfection the first time, but based on some of the stories I've heard about the early days of both SH3 and especially SH4.

As with any product(cars, stereos, cameras, etc.), if I buy something and it is a piece of crap, I won't buy something made by that company again in all likelihood or at least do so very cautiously. If it is a good product, lasts a long time, and works like it should, I will very likely go right back to that company for something else. Brand loyalty is earned.

Like I said at the beginning of the post, I personally don't have a lot of history with the game so my opinion might not hold a lot of weight but I probably will not be running out on day one and buying SH5.

I honestly do hope that Ubisoft releases an outstanding game that is relatively bug free and meets many of our expectations. I am eagerly awaiting the release and will be reading everyone's comments, reviews, and/or bitchin' on these forums. If there is a lot of :yeah:, I'll be more willing to go out and plunk down the $30, albeit a few months later.

:)

I'll be purchasing the game on the first day of release to support the genre.....I'm also an inquisitive nosey bastid.

If our community don't feel able to support Ubi and the devs, there's a simple end game......the potential cessation of sub sim games releases.

As for the above reference to GWX.....too early to say and the game isn't even released yet. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

No waiting here - like always I'll pre-order the most expensive edition available (just for the free pen).

Then I'll install it and spend the next few weeks picking the files apart and learning how it hangs together.

Then I'll watch as a myriad of individual modders start releasing little setting tweaks.

Then I'll watch as an alpha male starts combining those tweaks into one d/l.

Then I'll watch the obligatory deck gun rate of fire argument.

Then I'll watch at least two opposing groups of modders go to their corners to work on their take of realism.

Then I'll watch the fireworks, egos, tears, tantrums, threats. Modders will leave, return, leave, return until it becomes disturbing.

Then I'll watch the "This game sux! I won't play it until GWX5 as no-one else could possibly know how to mod it so I'm sticking with SH3" threads, thus deflating the motivation of many, many new great modders that will no doubt emerge.

Then I'll start work on SH5Cmdr because someone will find something "missing" that can't be fixed through normal modding or setting tweaks.

Then I'll get bombarded with "how do you download a file?" questions and "SH5Cmdr ate all the food in my fridge, got my wife pregnant and vomitted in my car" accusations.

Then I'll stop work on SH5Cmdr out of frustration at the never end of ungreats.

Then after a hiatus I'll come back for one last release just to tie things off and recognise the many loyal supporters.

Then they'll announce SH6.

Then I'll pre-order the most expensive edition available (just for the free pen).

...

:up:

TDK I agreed. I'm tired of game companies putting out beta's. :up:

:rotfl::rotfl::haha::rotfl::har:

JS,

That is just a priceless post if I have ever seen one! I have seen some funny posts over the years but yours takes the cake! :har::har::har::har:

Jscones very funny and very true :up:
I wish it was the magic post who could sort things out in peace and harmony..

If you wait nine months, JS, they glue the sub shaped pen to the cellophane DVD cover to sell the game in the bargain bin. If you point the pen towards the floor, the little propellers start to spin in the wrong direction.

I agree with this...

I never did DL GWX3... but that was a spot on post there JC :haha:

LOL - I love it! Well said sir...

SH5 Commander sounds a lot like my college roommate :haha:

So what do you plan doing after lunch Jaesen? :hmmm:

:DL

This is perhaps the greatest post in the history of Subsim!:up::up::up:

Having played most of the previous versions I will (for better or worse) buy SHV when it ships; my curiosity level will just be too high.

Do I expect bugs? Of course, it will have its problems, I don't think anyone is expecting otherwise given the history of Silent Hunter games.

The question is how bad will it be? Will it be virtually unplayable out of the box? :hmmm:


As far as another 'Atlantic' sim, I'm just not that worked up about it. We've had several of those, I'm on board with the folks looking for something different...modern boats, or else take it back further to WWI.

Anything new. :sunny:

Although it's easy to forget, the subsim community here forms a very tiny percentage of the sold SH games. In other words Ubi don't need us.
I jumped on SHIII the day it came out and I literaly had to wait another year to make the game playable.
So of course this time I'm waiting.