Well you don't hear John McCain talk much about his military service, all we hear is his POW experience.

Strange that we don't here much more about his 20+ military career.

Why? Because his 20+ Years in the military match up his 26 year career in the Congress. Honourable service but not much noteworthy.

I was taking his time in captivity as a part of his military career. He tends to answer everything with Hanoi, I for one find it disturbing and worrisome.

observe the current campaign frontpage - http://www.johnmccain.com/convention.htm

Right. We have heard about it. But it's certainly not a major theme. I've listened to McCain talk and it's basically a footnote compared to his highlighting his record in the Senate.

I agree Platapus, McCain should highlight more of his other major military service, such as his commanding a squadron down in Florida. Hmmmm.....Chicago "community activist" or Navy Squadron Commander as President? Who should I choose?

No he doesn't. But you can expect him to mention it. It's just not as frequently as you're making it out.

Well, he certainly runs to it when caught out or unsure - http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080826/...cs_mccain_dc_1

And let's not open the Dancing Queen mess

He's not quite Subject-verb-9/11 yet.

Then you're clueless even about your own country. The Bastille Day events I saw going on were happening everywhere I went down there. The fireworks in Cannes were truly spectacular. You couldn't miss it.

Well, with all the people telling us how stupid Americans are and how enlightened Europeans are, I was expecting to see true genius over there. I was sorely disappointed. Same sloth, same ignorance, different language. And yes, your media is trash. I can't believe the garbage you guys are fed.

France 24 is brilliant.

Department of Sweeping Generalisations is working overtime.

Or the fact that in 72 years McCain only has a BS degree and graduated 894 of 899. Where as Obama got his JD and graduated magna cum laude.

Biographical history can help or hurt here. :)

I really have to wonder about someone who graduated in 1958 and never seemed to ever take any further education? I have not been able to find any references that state that McCain even took any college classes after '58.

50 years and not one continuing education class? I guess schoolin is not for every one. :lol:

That's what they were calling it in Cannes. Actually, the garbage here in the USA was trying to get Gore and Kerry elected. It was very anti-Bush both times. The people chose Bush for other reasons. The mainstream media here simply is looked at as a joke. Including the biased way the war is covered.

I agree, but it's what you do with that education that counts and what experiences you've gained. So it's not really a big deal either way.

Well considering McCain managed to crash his plane 5 times think I might give the cmmunity guy a spin. :D

Well I sure would not hire someone for an executive management position who has not taken at least one professional class in 50 years.

In 20+ years in the military and then 26 years in the Senate, I think he would have some time to take a class in economics, political science, history...something. Something to indicate that he considers political service to be a profession worthy of effort.

George Bush Jr. at least had an MBA

Might want to change that 5 to a 2 or even a 1. The last one, he was shot down. The one before that was a flame out. The one before that was a freak accident (and accidentally fired rocket striking his plane). The one before that was a genuine crash. The one before that might or might not have been an engine failure.

Research, what a concept:D

Edit : Source http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...16/ai_61361646

The conclusion that the engine in the first crash could not have failed since the engine could be restarted after being removed from the plane and emptied of seawater is erroneous. It doesn't take into account the possibility that something other than the engine caused the engine to stop functioning (i.e. fuel line problems).

Ok, just the once then, thats usually enough for most people.:dead:

Couldn't they find a guy who never crashed his plane, I dare say theres quite a few pilots around who can make that boast? :D :hmm:

Gee, I never crashed a plane (a real one, anyway), so maybe I should be Prez?:D:hmm:

I just want to know when they plan on changing their name to the "Neo-Socialist Party"?

IME I have seen more MBA's ruin companies than salvage them. They know how to make a fast buck but negate long term profits and always cut and slash the employees benefits and often times salary. I would much rather have a candidate who has common sense than a degree anytime. MBA stands for Mico-brain-anomaly!:D

I'm an MBA... I can't say that I've made the same observations.

Well, you asked for this.

TO BE A GOOD CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN...
1. You have to believe that teenagers shouldn't learn about safe sex because ignorance is the best way to prevent pregnancy, and besides,only those homos get AIDS and you thank God for that.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to lead all kids in prayer regardless of their faith as long as it's your faith.

3. You have to believe it is intelligent to buy a gun to protect your family and home despite the fact that you are 40 times more likely to kill your own family member than an intruder.

4. You have to believe that it's OK to have an affair as long as you divorce your spouse after you've been caught and marry the mistress. (Dole, Reagan, Gingrich, Barr, etc.)

5. You have to believe that your SUV should be exempt from emission standards even though it spews out 4 times the pollution of any car, because you enjoy sitting high above the congested traffic.

6. You have to believe abortion is always wrong because all lives are precious and you'll kill any doctor who performs one.

7. You have to believe that the minimum wage should be outlawed because thanks to the extreme generosity of corporations you are overpaid.

8. You have to believe that your children will have a well-rounded education by banning books in the public schools and libraries.

9. You have to believe that in case the government goes bad, you'll need your handgun to successfully fight off an organized army that has tanks, aircraft, battleships, missiles, satellites, and 2 million well-trained soldiers.

10 You have to believe that the NRA is good because it supports a self-serving portion of the Constitution, but the ACLU is bad because it supports all portions of the Constitution, even the right for your fellow Klansmen to have a parade in a Jewish neighborhood.

11. You have to believe that a woman cannot be trusted with decisions about her own body, but that large multinational corporations should make decisions affecting all mankind with no regulation whatsoever.

12. You have to believe that diversity on your presidential ticket means two Texas millionaire oilmen from different corporations.

13. You have to believe the Hate Crimes Bill is bad because it gives "special protection" to a group of people, but think that laws that prohibit citizens from suing Tobacco Corporations, Gun-makers and HMOs are not special protection.

14. You have to believe that freedom of speech is cherished as long as you like what is being said.

15. You have to believe that over the past 20 years, no Presidential primary is complete without the name Dole and/or Bush on it.

16. You have to believe that trickle-down economics works because the rich surely won't keep all that money to themselves. Look how well it worked during the Reagan-Bush years.

17. You have to believe Clinton is bad because he lied about a private sexual indiscretion under oath, but Ronald "I don't remember" Reagan and George "I wasn't there" Bush are heroes because they lied under oath about illegally selling arms to Iranian militants and giving the cash to drug-smuggling Nicaraguan Contras.

18. You have to believe that its OK for government to sanction religion just as long as it's your religion.

19. You have to believe the homosexual agenda is to get a purple Tele-Tubby to turn our children gay.

20. You have to believe that hunters need assault weapons to assist in natural selection, because they shoot only the starving and sick animals and will not shoot that magnificent 12-point stag.

21. You have to believe that Reagan's tripling the deficit was good for the economy.

22. You have to believe that the best leaders to espouse family values are those with one or more failed marriages (Dole, Reagan, Gingrich, Barr, Limbaugh, etc.)

23. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you are millionaire conservative radio jock, which makes it an "illness" and needs our prayers for "recovery."

24. You have to believe that the members of your national convention represent a good cross-sectional and diverse group of Americans.

25. You have to believe that a national sales tax is better than income tax because everyone uses the same proportion of their income to buy food, clothing, and housing, but really, the only good tax is one which only the poor pay.

26. You have to believe Jesus was a Conservative and shares your hatred of AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton. You also ask yourself "What would Jesus Do?" and completely ignore the fact that he stayed out of politics, never tried to get a law passed, never tried to obtain wealth, nor spoke of divisive drivel.

27. You believe that charitable organizations should take care of the poor and then give nothing to charity (i.e. Dick Cheney).

28. You believe that a rape victim should be forced to raise her attacker's offspring and then fight her attempts to get welfare when she tries to do so.

29. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private school with a $1,000 voucher (Dubya doesn't count, because he's not a minority. He just became President with the minority).

30. You have to believe that a great way to lower air pollution is to get others to ride mass transit; that way you can get to work in your SUV much faster.

31. You have to believe the talk of Randy Weaver and David Koresh are more important than actions of Franklin Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, and what happened at Ruby Ridge is more important than what happened at Selma, Alabama.

32. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton was crazy for talking to spirits in the White House, but Nancy Reagan is OK for consulting astrologers to help her decide U.S. policies while Ronnie was in the hospital.

33. You have to believe everything that is said by right-wing wackos on talk radio.

34) You have to believe that Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him with chemical weapons to fight Iran, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney was doing business with him for Halliburton, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

35) You have to believe that the lumber from the last one percent of old growth U.S. forests is well worth the extinction of several species of plants and animals therein. Besides, it will prevent forest fires.

36) You have to believe that Aid to Mothers with Dependent children is wasteful, but giving tax breaks to companies moving American jobs overseas is just what government is for.

37) You have to believe that trade with Cuba is wrong because it is communist, but trading with China and Vietnam is good.

38) You have to believe that the public has a right to know what the government is doing but that Bush was right to censor those 28 pages from the Congressional 9/11 report because you just can't handle the truth.



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I believe that already had it's own thread...