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AVGWarhawk 06-18-08 12:36 PM

Tsk Tsk.....


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html

JoeCorrado 06-18-08 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I believe this photo was discredited as trip to Africa and this is African garb.

I also believe that the father aboandoned Obama and his mother when he was just two years old.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...11_page2.shtml


Surprised that Duci feels so threatened. :hmm:

SUBMAN1 06-18-08 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I believe this photo was discredited as trip to Africa and this is African garb.

I also believe that the father aboandoned Obama and his mother when he was just two years old.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...11_page2.shtml


Surprised that Duci feels so threatened. :hmm:

There is evidence of his father being around when he was even 5. Another lie?

-S

SUBMAN1 06-18-08 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think this is so Muslims don't ask him any questions.

Nice.

-S

Enigma 06-18-08 02:26 PM

Haha. I must admit, I do enjoy watching the righties scrape and claw and squirm for a reason to discredit this guy....:roll:

AVGWarhawk 06-18-08 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Haha. I must admit, I do enjoy watching the righties scrape and claw and squirm for a reason to discredit this guy....:roll:

Righties? Hell, it was Obama's handlers who asked the people with head scarfs not to be in the picture as noted in above post. McCains has done next to nothing in discrediting the guy. Obama has one major flaw....inexperience. Nothing more. BTW, the discrediting went on more by the Clinton Campaign then anything or was that last weeks news?

AVGWarhawk 06-18-08 02:35 PM

And yet another:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...ory?id=5193874


Can't say his middle name either. Gosh, what next. I'm beginning to feel this is all contrived to get Obama in the White House....NO really?

SUBMAN1 06-18-08 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
And yet another:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...ory?id=5193874


Can't say his middle name either. Gosh, what next. I'm beginning to feel this is all contrived to get Obama in the White House....NO really?

Scary.

-S

AVGWarhawk 06-18-08 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
And yet another:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...ory?id=5193874


Can't say his middle name either. Gosh, what next. I'm beginning to feel this is all contrived to get Obama in the White House....NO really?

Scary.

-S

Yes it is scary. Really, what next. Now photo op are tailor made to make Obama look good? Can not say his middle name? Talk about being groomed for the White House. Looks great, does not know crap. Obama '08.

NEON DEON 06-18-08 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
And yet another:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...ory?id=5193874


Can't say his middle name either. Gosh, what next. I'm beginning to feel this is all contrived to get Obama in the White House....NO really?

It is pretty much all orchestrated politics as usual manipulation. I think you need a huge marketing resume when applying for campaign manager these days. The problem with Obama is that he seems to avoid confrontation. I doubt that he will be able to side step all the way to November. I suppose it would all depend on the independents and moderates of each party to decide. Can hope and change rhetoric out last inexperience and Obama’s jaded associations or will the middle wake up and send McCain to the White House?

Ducimus 06-18-08 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
Surprised that Duci feels so threatened. :hmm:

Ever have one of those days where your just not in the mood to put up with peoples petty bullschitt? I make a simple, honest, direct statement and these retards (aka 'tard') have to make a god damn poltiical debate out of it. Im still pissed about that. I swear, half the numbnuts in this forum can't hold a conversation unless debating about politics and religion. I should start adding each and everyone of those people to my ignore list, and then post a screenshot later on to show what this forum really looks like.

NEON DEON 06-18-08 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
Surprised that Duci feels so threatened. :hmm:

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
I make a simple, honest, direct statement and these retards (aka 'tard')

Ok thanks for clearing that up.

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
I should start adding each and everyone of those people to my ignore list,

Can I be on the list?

I sure do hope so.

August 06-18-08 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
Surprised that Duci feels so threatened. :hmm:

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
I make a simple, honest, direct statement and these retards (aka 'tard')

Ok thanks for clearing that up.

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
I should start adding each and everyone of those people to my ignore list,

Can I be on the list?

I sure do hope so.

The coolest part is once they add you to their ignore list you're now free to comment on their posts without having to dealing with their rather large egos and fake injured pride.

AVGWarhawk 06-18-08 05:23 PM

Not sure what this has to do with Obama being a retired Muslim but hey, that is just me.

Platapus 06-18-08 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Not sure what this has to do with Obama being a retired Muslim but hey, that is just me.


it is like seeing a train wreck. You want to look away but you just can't :)

SUBMAN1 06-18-08 05:27 PM

Chill out guys. Ducimus is just having a bad day. We all go through those days.
-S

PeriscopeDepth 06-18-08 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Not sure what this has to do with Obama being a retired Muslim but hey, that is just me.

They have an awesome severance package if it includes going for the Presidency. :lol:

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN
Chill out guys. Ducimus is just having a bad day. We all go through those days.

This might be the best post in this thread.

PD

Sldghammer 06-19-08 12:11 AM

So you're saying that 25 or 30 or more years ago, Obama decided that he was going to run for POTUS and that when he would run, far in the future, America would distrust muslims, so he became a Christian to have a better image.

And no-one wold suspect that he was a closet muslim.

If he's that smart, I would vote for him.

Zero Niner 06-19-08 12:26 AM

Congressman Keith Ellison, a converted Muslim, wanted to use a Koran during his swearing in ceremony, and created an uproar in the process. Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1207/p01s03-uspo.html

I'd think a similar uproar would ensue if Obama tried to do the same.

As for Obama being a closet Muslim while professing the Christian faith, I find this so preposterous I don't know whether to laugh or cry for you Americans.

He's identified with the Christian faith for what, something like 20 years?

Is the implication then that Muslims have been secretly plotting against the West for all that time, and chose only to act during 9/11?

Islam is no monolithic religion any more than Christianity is. Like the latter, Islam has two main sects, Shia and Sunni, who regard each other at the fundamental level as apostates. This was one of the factors fueling the internecine violence in Iraq.

Even within each sect there are many "denominations" (for want of a better word) and even cults. Wahhabism, which comes from the Sunni tradition, is a relatively recent doctrine created in the 18th century.

There was a cult in Malaysia (teapot cult, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Kingdom) that was disbanded by the Malaysian government in 2005.

There is no central authority in Islam (compared to say the Catholic Church where the Pope is the authority).

Also, Obama being a closet Muslim would incur the risk of being labeled an apostate which in some Muslim jurisdictions is a serious crime.

Occam's Razor comes to mind.

Stealth Hunter 06-19-08 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Niner
Congressman Keith Ellison, a converted Muslim, wanted to use a Koran during his swearing in ceremony, and created an uproar in the process. Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1207/p01s03-uspo.html

I'd think a similar uproar would ensue if Obama tried to do the same.

As for Obama being a closet Muslim while professing the Christian faith, I find this so preposterous I don't know whether to laugh or cry for you Americans.

He's identified with the Christian faith for what, something like 20 years?

Is the implication then that Muslims have been secretly plotting against the West for all that time, and chose only to act during 9/11?

Islam is no monolithic religion any more than Christianity is. Like the latter, Islam has two main sects, Shia and Sunni, who regard each other at the fundamental level as apostates. This was one of the factors fueling the internecine violence in Iraq.

Even within each sect there are many "denominations" (for want of a better word) and even cults. Wahhabism, which comes from the Sunni tradition, is a relatively recent doctrine created in the 18th century.

There was a cult in Malaysia (teapot cult, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Kingdom) that was disbanded by the Malaysian government in 2005.

There is no central authority in Islam (compared to say the Catholic Church where the Pope is the authority).

Also, Obama being a closet Muslim would incur the risk of being labeled an apostate which in some Muslim jurisdictions is a serious crime.

Occam's Razor comes to mind.

Couldn't sum it up any better.


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