Of course you would like him as your neighbour. As long you guys don't live next to my house I would feel quite secure. I think Mr. Horn showed in plain view that he is a loose gun, literary.

Look out for the criminal with the knife, club, fist, foot. There are many ways to hurt or even kill a person. As hard as you might think it is. A fiearm is ultimately the great equalizer.

Firearms usualy give the advantage to the person who gets ready to shoot first.
Unless you are allways on a knife edge, the it is usualy the criminal who points the
gun first because he is the only person who knows there will be a crime in advance.

Well that flys in the face of 'the criminal only wants your property' argument. Now you begin to realize that they may want your life also? If so six minute respnose by the police is your death.

If only I'd had some way to fight back.

The only reason a criminal would want you life is:

1) Premeditated murder. He/She has a grudge agaist you.

2) He thinks he has to kill you first incase you have a gun.

In England we only have the first, wich is part of the reason our hommoside rates
are far below that of the US.

If they are a physical threat to you then you are justified in using extreme measures. Mr Horn had no such situation.

Common Sense. Use it if you have it.

How do you know that? Please, some of those statistics of yours would be appropriate. Even if that were the case ( I don't think you can prove your thesis) it doesn't preclude anyones right to defend ones self or property with a firearm.

Murders Per 100,000 for 1999 (US) and 1997(UK)

USA: 5.70 (3.72 with guns (inc.))
UK: 1.41 (0.11 with guns (inc.))

The avaliability of firearms is one of sevral important factors that effect murder rates in a country.
other factors include economic growth, population dispersal, policeing effectiveness etc.

............. How many lives were saved by use of firearms in each country?

You mean lives saved by killing people? :rotfl:

criminals are not people... :yep:

Yeah, I have to agree. If these guys were breaking into his house, I would back him in using deadly force. But he cannot deputize himself and cut loose with a 12 gauge. Hell, for all he knows, that could easily be the son of the homeowner who locked himself out. He's going to end up in trouble over this.

Good post Letum :up:

Allow me to add a point 3) Criminals in the UK are aware that in the main, British Police Officers are unarmed. However, any report of activity that includes the use of firearms is ALWAYS counterracted with the likelihood of an armed response.
British society is far less tolerant of firearms than our American cousins.

Ever broken a law?

Police officers being unarmed, with british crime rates, is a crime itself towards the citizens.

In that sir.....we both agree :yep:

or

3) He doesn't want to leave you alive to testify against him later.

4) He gets scared

5)He kills you by accident

I think its scary people will just hope for the best, it only natural to show aggressiveness when invaded and assaulted. Do you also take a beating when someone attacks you? This is the real world, goverment isnt the solution to everything. In the end, you can rely 100% only in yourself and people close to you.
I dont care what the criminal thinks, and not going to find out, i will take the initiative and attack. And im not only talking, ive really done this. The instincts should be there for everyone but maybe some have lost them. Its just that life can still hit you in the face in our civilized societies.

Those are not reasons why he would want to kill you.

Oh wow.

I guess the parking violation I recieved last Wednesday has forfeit me as a person?:roll:

Anyway, if my neighbor shot two kids to save my DVD player, I'd move. Immediately.