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Originally Posted by Antidike

Oh and this is to all Kraftwerk fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP1tkspU5yw&playnext=1

:lol: :rock: :up:

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Hilarious title, and the fact that the creator is in the brig makes it even better.

What'd I do without this site:rotfl:?

Bah, just adopt the German anthem. As a matter of fact, all nations should adopt the German anthem. Prettiest tune I ever heard:up:.

Didn't we have this suggestion many years ago:D

Would make the olympics a but dull come medal time.

Bah forget medal time it's more important having pride and the german national anthem has plenty of it!:up:

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Originally Posted by gnirtS

This thread is diverging a bit.

Some are on about a British national anthem, some an English national anthem - 2 different things.

Wales and Scotland have their own, England is the only country in the union that does not have its own and uses the GSTQ durge.

A separate issue is Britain as a whole (different from ENGLAND) and that anthem. GSTQ as well as being uninventing and dull is also incredibly annoying for the majority of the country who want rid of the royal family - they last thing they're going to do is sing something in support of them. Its hardly a song to unite everyone as a result of that!

Well, I certainly hope the Welsh anthem is better than ours!

"Flower of Scotland" is hell of a lot worse than "God Save the Queen"!!!!:shifty:

Personally, I voted for "Land of Hope and Glory". Might as well have some optimism!!

Mike.:)

I've always thought that the current national anthem is dreary. You just couldn't march about to it could you. I love to watch the F1 and it's always grim to hear "God Save" played at the podium ceremony alongside something racy like the French or Italian anthem.

As an aside, the Hungarian National anthem mentions "ripen grapes of Tokay" which I believe is to Hungary what Brandy is to France or Whiskey is to Scotland (please correct me if I'm wrong). What a fab idea to mention your national tipple in your anthem.

Then there is the whole issue of National vs English anthem which I see is being discussed. I feel that Jerusalem is the best candidate for English anthem as it always brings a lump to my throat despite my total lack of religious beliefs (the Billy Bragg fans amongst you will be pleased to hear that it's his choice too).

As for national anthem, it would have to be by a British composer, how about "Parklife" or "Vindaloo" for a good old knees-up with plenty of smiles. Or "Smack my bitch up" which would be fantasitic at the start of an international sports event! :lol:

Has anyone seen the Al Murray (pub landlord) take on the national anthem? He goes on about how where ever in the world she is, if there's any danger nearby, all it takes is for one Brit somewhere in the world to stand up and sing the national anthem and call out to god, he is our god afterall, to stop what he's doing and save the queen! Very funny indeed.

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Originally Posted by Mudrik

I've always thought that the current national anthem is dreary. You just couldn't march about to it could you.

The best you could try is dragging yourself if you're in an energetic mood:lol: .

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Originally Posted by Mudrik

As an aside, the Hungarian National anthem mentions "ripen grapes of Tokay" which I believe is to Hungary what Brandy is to France or Whiskey is to Scotland (please correct me if I'm wrong). What a fab idea to mention your national tipple in your anthem.

Well the germans 2nd verse

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Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang

Praise their women and their wine (on reflection I think I'd prefer their women)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odNNgEn5l6s

:D

Tchock

(lets make this confusing)

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odNNgEn5l6s

:rotfl:

I love Connolly! :yep:

There have been various efforts to get the US Nation Anthem changed from the unsingable Star Spangled Banner to America the Beautiful.

http://www.answers.com/topic/america-the-beautiful

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odNNgEn5l6s

:D

Tchock

(lets make this confusing)

Never get sick of watching that "An audience With Billy Connolly" :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by kurtz

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

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Originally Posted by kurtz

and what do we have? Some dreary little ditty asking some deity of middle eastern provenance to look after some unelected foriegner who's been placed in charge of us.

Where in "God Save the Queen" is this mentioned? :-?

Where it says "God Save the Queen"

The term god has nothing to do with the Jewish יהוה.

Etymology of the name God:
http://wahiduddin.net/words/name_god.htm

Names of God in Judaism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism

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In old German dialects, 'got' was the general term for a numinous being - the kind of primal power that affected everything, without having a definite shape of its own. 'Got' was not to be mixed up with Wotan or Odin, which were already concrete formulations. 'Got' thus corresponded to the Indian 'Atman', while the gods were seen as mortal beings.
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The earliest written form of the Germanic word "god" comes from the 6th century Christian Codex Argenteus. The English word itself descends from the Proto-Germanic *ǥuđan. Most linguists agree that the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European form *ǵhu-tó-m was based on the root *ǵhau(ə)-, which meant either "to libate" or "to call, to invoke".

The capitalized form "God" was first used in Ulfilas' Gothic translation of the New Testament, to represent the Greek Theos, and the Latin Deus (etymology "*Dyeus"). Because the development of English orthography was dominated by Christian texts written in Latin, the capitalization (hence personalization and personal name) continues to represent a distinction between monotheistic "God" and the "gods" of polytheism.
The name "God" now typically refers to the Abrahamic God of Judaism (El), Christianity, and Islam (Allah). Though there are significant cultural divergences that are implied by these different names, "God" remains the common English translation for all. The name may signify any related or similar monotheistic deities, such as the early monotheism of Akhenaten and Zoroastrianism.

God at wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

Here's a good national anthem for the world i think!:up: :rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WktxIqbGAj0&playnext=1

@ Smaragdadler

Fascinating links thanks, but as one of the points out (wiki I think) the term has come to represent the Abrahamic deity.

Mike

Can't change the star spangled banner, it would take an act of Congress, and Congress usually defers to tradition.

If they were going to propose changing it in a semi-serious light, then I'd rather it become 'My Country Tis of Thee' instead of 'America the Beautiful'.

Given the latest BBC thread, which reminded me of the story about a failure to find reasons for British proudness, I suggest this as the new non-rubbish British national anthem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa8TyF6lo80