:damn: :damn: :damn:
Why is it Human Nature to concentrate on negatives?

Some of us have better things to do than unnecessarily reinstalling SH3. It's completely avoidable in this instance.

Exactly. A bunch of nuthin' over its default installation path.

It's not like reinstalling a program takes a herculean effort.

It's also not that hard to have a duel install incase something scews up. If you were serious about it, you could have SH3:stock, SH3:gwx, and Sh3:NYGM all on the same drive with each one runing as an entirely different and independant game if you wanted to. Assuming one has the drive space that is. Most ill have is two installs personnaly, but thats primarly for modding reasons.

Some of us have better things to do than answer the same question on the same thread over and over again too.

Any mod gets complaints. Ours is no different. It is no-nonsense simple math to know that the more users you have... the more complaints you have.

You have stated your opinion and queried regarding your concern. I have addressed your concern clearly.

Further repetitive non-constructive posts from you regarding this issue can be viewed as trolling and/or baiting.

I do precisely that (indeed, that was the very reason I wrote MultiSH3). In a world where a 250GB SATA II drive goes for around US$75, SH3 1.4b uses around 2.44GB so space shouldn't be an issue. My argument is that the autoinstall process as described will unnecessarily interfere with just that sort of configuration. If it were not for the fact of so many people running multiple installations there would be no issue over the installation path. Given the number of supermods it's presumptuous, to say the least, for any one of them to presume it can take over the default path.

I'm hoping Jaesen will get back and inform us that the installer does not in fact work as described. Since there's no sound reason for GWX not to have its cake and eat it too I doubt he'll have implemented something so stupid.

The post to which you responded was in response to someone other than yourself, so there was no requirement for you to respond.

My posts have been entirely constructive. I've shown how you can improve a bad design decision, thus satisfying both your stated aim and your users. The fact you don't agree with me in no way makes that non-constructive.

Uhm ... :huh: Going postal, potoroo?

I no longer own a gun so you can relax.

Again, for having our "stupid" default installation path be the usual / normal SH3 default path... There is no issue.

Secondly, if you were so concerned about our welfare and feel that we are making a mistake you have means to handle this in private.

Thirdly, JScones and I have been in close conversation regarding this matter for several days. I typically go with his suggestions. I view him as the expert on this matter.

Fourthly, even if you go around me directly to Jaeson and protest our methods. He is courteous enough to cuss and discuss issues with me afterwards in private...
...you won't see him trashing an informative thread over a personal interest.

Finally, part of being a project manager is making tough decisions. If I were screwing it up so royally... We wouldn't have come this far.

Quit bikering about this auto install. It Kpt. Lehmann wants to use one he can.

If it is only a default and if that default can be changed by the user according to need then there indeed is no issue but that is not how the autoinstaller has been described. The issue is not the default. It's standard practice for installers to assume a default installation path. It's also standard practice that the installation path can be changed if the user chooses. If the autoinstaller in fact follows these standard practices then it has been misdescribed and all this argument has been unnecessary.

I didn't say I expected him to trash anything. I did say I hoped he would inform us we had been misinformed about how the autoinstaller works. I've also dealt with him and he was helpful and cooperative when we were sorting out compatibility issues between SH3 Commander and MultiSH3. He and I are both professional programmers so I would expect him to understand the issues. That's why I have difficulty understanding why he would have implemented the autoinstaller the way you describe it.

We're talking about one thing only.

No-one has said he can't.

I also listen to what people don't say. You are bothered that we aren't giving you a simple way to de-construct the mod package per your post on page one or two.

Your first post on this thread:

Allowing for a user to have a convenient place to dump the GWX files for the sake of picking and choosing does not concern us.

Dear god just STFU
When you have the auto installer in front of you and you dont like it by all means voice your opinion
Till then quit moaning about what may and may not suit YOUR preference

Its quite simple really

And IF it does come with only one installation path and you dont like it then dont use it

Again - quite simple really

Thank you BBW.

Now we've come full circle... and I have to get ready for my real life work.

LOL. The fun never stops.

In that case I think you've radically misunderstood what I've said. I have said I have no problem with the requirement GWX be installed intact. I have said I have no problem with the requirement GWX be installed over a clean 1.4b. I just want that clean 1.4b to be somewhere other than the default path. That's it. No deconstruction of GWX is involved.

In my scenario, for which (as I said way back) I purposely keep my default 1.4b pristine, is that I copy that to another folder and subsequently install GWX over the copy. Very simple, very clean. No reinstallation of anything is required.

Whatever the rate your stock install is not harmed. I maintain one myself and have re-named it to protect it from accidents to begin with. Whatever the installation method. You can protect your clean installation with a simple re-naming process which I described. (which you referred to as "nonsense"... direct quote) There are more work-arounds for the same available than that as well.

You are stating that a thing is difficult or cantankerous when it is not.

Sigh.

:doh: Really WTF is ur problem....a Path.
I have 3 Installations on my computer
I have 3 Icons on my Desktop
3 Icons that lead to the right Path
Launching is no problem
and why do u care where its installed anyway? really wtf!:damn:
and now most of the Auto installers are ''Default path'' some others let u choose
live with what you get an stfu about it.

Because it's my PC.
If you have an argument to put then fine. If you don't then follow your own advice.

:shifty: Now really, ok its ur Pc but its Their Mod they have chosen the Auto Installer and they spend the time to create it.
solution: install it on default...Cut and Paste it to the folder you want , takes a bit of time, but I think ur the only one that complains about it. so dont see the need that mods need to change the auto installer , and my guess they stick with the installer they have now so. if ur like it or not...you are going to have to install it on default before you can move it to where you want it to be.