This is good.:|\\

Yes you did. Earned money is property. The money in my wallet is my property. And you are openly advocating taking more, and spending as your party sees fit. You are advocating economic slavery.

Then do it!

The government has not proven to be able to deliver any product cheaply. Healthcare will be no different. If you want better health care the private sector could do it better. You want better schools? Spending more money is not the answer. What's needed is standards. If only democrats would understand that schools are there to educate kids....not to be a jobs program for adult teachers. Gotta get rid of the teachers unions. And people's paychecks is none of my concern. That is between the employer and the prospective employee.

And you wonder why the Democrats suck on national security issues. The party platform itself says this.

Rubbish. 27 out of 30 of the most generous states are Republican in charitable giving. 17 out of the 20 least generous states are Democrat states. And no, I don't want to just give handouts to people. I'd rather create opportunities for people with a better performing economy. I'd rather raise people up to a better standard. Some people fall on hard times, true. I have myself at times. But in a free society you have the responsibility to get back up and pull your own weight.

And what are you talking about with "inflated prices"? Prices have never been lower on consumer goods. Even gasoline is coming down. You have never taken an economics course and it shows.

Nope. Never said that. But it's nice to pursue better opportunities for yourself and your family. If you have a family, it's stupid and irresponsible not to.

Nobody said the US school system was perfect.:|\\

Avon Lady, you are my hero:|\\

Well, I'm not knocking it in it's entirety, but I have someone here spouting that he wants to open up my wallet to improve the public schools. And I'm saying the issue is not always money. There are of course excellent teachers and good public schools out there. :up: I was generalizing for the sake of brevity.

All one has to do is step back and take a good look at this thread and the nonsense spewed here to understand which direction the Democratic party has been and is heading to.

Suggested reading: The Shadow Party, Part I and Part II.

Much is very similar to what has happened to Israel's leftist labor party, now a shell of it's former self, with much thanks to overseas leftists and their funding pols and agendas that the rest of us cannot stomach.

(Eats popcorn)

Looks like one-liners don't make much impact on the overall scale here (referring to PH).

Looks like y'all did it again. THOU HAST ACTIVATED: THE RANT!!!

Rant ON :hulk:

@ SubSerpent:

I'm surprised you don't understand the importance of maintaining a standing army that would be ready for war at a moment's notice. More so after you've been in the service. We need Marines because they're crazy (read: Stupid) enough, and have enough balls to seize a beach head so the army can come onboard. Besides, we won't be getting rid of the army or Marines until the Navy boats grow legs and can take care of the job for us.

Communism may be gone in the regards to the USSR , but there are plenty of other dangers that are present. Our military needs to be kept at it's peak, especially since the Chinese are continually building and re-organizing their war machine. The price of paying a few more dollars from our wallets to maintain a clean sharp edge is less costly than a war in which we are at a disadvantage.

What I do see as a wholesale waste of our tax dollars is when beauracracy starts eating it up by making up more red tape.

Ever wonder why we still have that ancient and burdensome tape when the Pentagon can produce far more advanced weaponry, in a shorter amount of time, and accompish it under budget with a "Black Project"?

Of course the Beauracracy is more than willing to pay $400 for a hammer, or $2,000 for a toilet seat.

And god forbid that we stop international aid to nations that are in every way imaginable HOSTILE to us. (Indonesia, Pakistan, etc.).


@ nobody in particular:

I have the perfect example of rule by the Democratic party: Kommiefornia (California), just slightly less Democratic than China.

Kommiefornia has passed some of the most restrictive laws I can think of. Particularly regarding firearms and ones' right to defend oneself.

It has gotten so bad that a majority of firearm/ammunition manufacturers have STOPPED providing services to the Police Departments there and REFUSE to service their firearms or sell them firearms and ammunition.

Why? Well, lets take a look.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable

http://www.hk94.com/hk/CA-DOJ-Banned...se-t15544.html

http://www.hk94.com/hk/FIREARMS-MICR...NG-t16184.html

http://www.hk94.com/hk/AB-357-t15048.html

Currently, Glock is the ONLY firearms manufacturer that has a monopoly on sales of sidearms. Glock is considering of abandoning the Kommiefornia market with the recent bills AB-357 and AB-352 put on the list for a vote on the Senate floor. The bills are expected to pass.

Lovely, Democrats Control California, and we're disarmed and stripped of the right to defend ourselves. Sounds LOTS like Communism. It's nice when a heavily taxed state that can't even operate within their huge budget finds a way to waste even more forcibly collected funds.

But what happens when criminals start using revolvers or brass catchers? I guess they'll pass a new law to ban those too.

*UPDATE*

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=71240

Oh well. I guess the LEOs' can kiss their Glocks goodbye, cuz I guarantee you that Glock is NOT going to go through with this.

My, now Democrats have succeeded in disarming their Law Enforcement Officers.

And two new bills have been drafted and are on the waiting list to be voted on..

SB 59 which criminalizes a firearms owner if their stolen firearm is used in a crime. Also tacked onto this, is the requirement that ALL thefts of stolen firearms are reported to the authorities.

AB-2714 Bans the purchase of ammunition by California residents via the Internet.

Well, we've successfully disarmed the populace. And the Seizure of the 9th Circuit was accomplished a while ago. So what's next?

http://www.rmgo.org/Gestapo/index.shtml

Oops!! I guess it's time to REALLY bring Communism to Kommiefornia. Time to play Big Brother!! (BTW, I live in Denver so this is sounding like a REAL FUN to me).

But criminals aren't going to turn in their guns, they're CRIMINALS!! SO what's the Democratic answer?

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...l/15447079.htm

http://www.a-human-right.com/s_racist.jpg

The following is a short timeline up to 1994 of various "Gun Control" laws passed here in the U.S.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/guntime1.html

These are SOME of the results of "Gun Control."

http://www.fightthebias.com/Resource...un_control.htm

Democrats don't play by the same rules as everyone else does:

Read the small blurb about her stance on "Gun Control."

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein

And this one about Chuck Schumer having an ARMED bodyguard.

http://www.americandaily.com/article/9405

WHY in the world would Democrats want to advocate Gun Control?

Oh wait, Gun Control = People Control.

At least with the Republicans in charge, the masses are fully armed and capable of overthrowing a corrupt government. Btw, both Fascism and Communism called themselves SOCIALISTS and championed for the rights of the people until they took absolute control.

And while this may be ONE issue regarding Democrats, this alone is enough to get me to make an about face and go anywhere but to them. I've also seen enough in all the other issues that the Democrats take positions on (ie. Welfare, the rights of private businesses, TAXES, National Security, U.S. sovreignty being subject to the U.N. etc.) to be convinced that Democrats WILL drive the United States into the ground and we will cease to be a sovereign and independent nation. I hope you like Baby Blue....or Red Stars (both have the same goal).

If you dispute the evidence presented, I suggest you read a couple of books entitled :"The Bias Against Guns," and "More Guns: Less Crime." Both are written by John R. Lott.:|\\

Rant OFF


(Continues to eat popcorn)

I don't believe Marines are crazy enough or got the balls enough to do a job. They do their job because they are ordered to do a job and to disobey would result in a courts martial. The Army showed they too had the balls during WWII to do the same type of "beachhead" landings that Marines were capable of on June 6, 1944 (D-Day). Not one Marine was even at D-Day. They were all in the Pacific taking on the Japanese and doing beach landings there.

My arguement about the Marines is just that...BeachLandings! This is what they were and supposedly are still known for, yet their hasn't been a large scale beachhead landings with any fighting since WWII. The government (both republican and democratic partys) always talk about a military downsize because the threat of the cold war is over and the fact that just 1 US nuclear submarine is capable of winning a war all on its own (though there would be massive amounts of innocent casualties). This is why I don't call for a complete military wrap-up, but a serious reduction in both manpower and equipment. Why does the US need more than two aircraft carriers? Or 5? or 10? Isn't this a bit extreme considering the US usually only send one or two to a theater of operations at a time? Of course you are going to need a relief aircraft carrier, and relief ships and troops for every war. But it seems like the US military is set up to fight 10 different wars all at the same time and that just aint gonna happen. There just wouldn't be enough money to fund ALL that equipment ALL at the same time. It would cripple the US to have to fund a war that large in scale. Heck, even just one war is crippling us. We are spending WAY too much money on these pointless wars.

How is the US going to solve Middle East fighting and aggresion in just a few years or so? Those people have been fighting one another since the world first started. Don't you think that once the US leaves the MiddleEast they will be right back at it again? I know I sure do! The facts are there. The have a religion that makes even a young child over their crazier than any US Marine by far. How many US Marines would be willing to strap C4 to themselves and run into an enemy building with thousands of enemy troops within it? I doubt any would because Americans are selfish about life more so than any other country. Why would you want to die when you have it all? But I really think that the reason why that small Arab child would be willing to die for her sides cause more so than a Marine on the US side is because "Religion outweighs Government" every time. Everyone knows they are going to die someday. The Arabs seem to know that government is not going to always be around. Religion however is. People want to believe more that they are going to the "good" place when they die more than they care if some country and its government comes in and takes over.

The fact is Republicans spend way too much. Democrats are left no choice but to force higher taxes on the people to pay off the bills that the republicans create. You and your side are too "live for today". Democrats are thinking about tomorrow and they realize that health care is gonna vanish (nobody will be able to afford it), they realize that social security is going to vanish so that the generation that is just now beginning to work will have to work the rest of their lives without the retirement that your generation is getting to enjoy. They realize that this country is headed down the same path the the former Soviet Union was on during the cold war. They too spent way too much money on weapons and tanks and troops and look where that got them...

All this wreckless spending is only because republicans such as yourself are afraid of terrorism and act like they are some giant country that must be defeated. Terroism is just a strategy employed by weaker and less financed countries to create havok amongst its opponent. Look how screwed up the US has gotten since 9/11. We are now spending money like crazy to "protect" ourselves from people that mean to do us harm. However, it's never going to stop no matter how much money the US spends to trying to prevent it. You are probably scared of your own shadow too. I feel sorry for you, I truely do.

What about the Dem. Sen. from Tennessee? Robert (KKK) Byrd?

An assumption gone wrong:rotfl: :rotfl:

Finally, a confession!!

Here is the REAL kkk today. BTW there is no proof that connects Robert Byrd to the KKK.

Lets look at the real racist remarks shall we.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/1...ublican-party/

Funny that you didn't answer the questions. So whats it worth?
Because one doesn't have the answer doesn't make one blind, dumb or stupid. What isn't working isn't working.

News Flash:
It was just on the news that the NATO commander is asking for more troops and quickly for Afganistan. They are loosing towns to the Taliban. The candle is burning on both ends. Whats the answer?

My, my. You sure do have quite a collection of extreem left wing garbage. While your digging, search for racist remarks made by Dems.

See what i mean?