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robj250 07-30-06 12:00 PM

Well, I may have bit off more than I can chew. The convoy I was heading for (received radio message about it) is moving toward the intercept point and I received a radio message that an enemy task force was on a course that would also intercept at the same point, oh my!!

Along the course toward the convoy intercept, I run into a River Destroyer Escort and it was heading toward my stern so at 800 m I fired a stern torpedo at it and the DE spotted my periscope and changed direction and therefore that torpedo missed just astern of the DE so I set up for a bow shot and fired tube 1 at 400 yards and sunk it.

In all the excitement, I forgot to film the whole sequence. Darn :damn:

But I may be in for trouble when I reach the intercept point, what with the convoy coming and the task force coming, oh my.:roll:

robj250 07-31-06 01:56 PM

Making movie clips is not that easy. I have reviewed the clips and they are crude but okay for my first time. I have one clip that had a black beginning so someone will have to tell me how to get rid of that. Also, I tried and tried to get an underwater shot of tubes opening and torpedo firing but I can't find my sub underwater :damn: so all my sinking shots are on the surface.

I find it very dificult to manage myself in keeping the lock on the target and knowing the distance when to fire when I'm not looking through the periscope. It's a whole different thing.

I don't know how you get your sub underwater with tubes opening and firing, but I guess that comes with experience.

:rotfl: I filmed one clip where I had my cursor on the surface of the water :rotfl:

WOW, there is so much to do, just to get one good clean clip. I threw out 6 clips as they were no good, but I still have a couple clips where I had to move the surface 'cause the ship was going off the screen before being hit. :oops:

tbarak 08-01-06 06:26 PM

I haven't read all the posts so sorry if I repeat.

If you're just recording a mission then all you do is record everything. Problem is of course that FRAPS records in WMV format which is a memory hog, and file sizes get unbearable at 100 - 500MBs or more. You simply need a way to edit the footage so you can just start and stop on the interesting bits during a mission, and cut the parts together. You need some type of editing program to make the process practical.

The best is FLASH but it's pricey, and I think you need the pro version to encode to the .swf format. That said, FLASH lets you do a lot of other things but it does also edit shots, and you can make titles and everything else there too. But the greatest feature is being able to code in .swf since a 100 MB WMV can be compressed into a .swf file (while still looking great) that's maybe 4 Megs.

SH3 doesn't easily allow you to create custom camera angles so you're limited to the omniscient view. But a movie in the sense of a bunched of staged shots can be done, but you'll have to do a lot of saving and loading in-game, repeating actions over and over again, collect a lot of footage then edit it together. But in many ways its brilliant and lot of fun.

I've been making movies of my levels for my personal site for sometime and I'm convinced Flash is the way to go. Up to now I've just made movies of my levels' cinematics but the games I work in allow you to make custom camera angles and control the camera's moves. SH3 will always remain a challenge to make movies for I've noticed.

robj250 08-02-06 08:39 AM

Hi Tbarak:
Yes, I've noticed that it is going to be necessary to take a lot of clips in order to put a movie together.

I've already paid for Frats, so I'm stuck with it.

I've started making my first film and have taken several clips. It is going to be an attack on a Convoy in the North Atlantic and a Task Force is also converging to the same point. I don't know what problems I'm going to have. This may be the end of U-51's career. I certainly hope not.

stabiz 08-02-06 09:04 AM

My vids usually contain around 90 clips, but I rarely throw away many of them. Its all about practice, as everything else. My first SH3-vid is utter crap, and none of you have seen it, :rotfl:.


But when you start making one for the first time, you see that its alot of work, but also alot of fun!

Good luck, rob, and send me tickets for the premiere. :D

HunterICX 08-02-06 09:35 AM

:-? Well, I think my Movie Making is over....

Cause lately when I created an Movie in the game called ''The Movies Game'' My PC crashed.....and that happend when I,m converting the Movie to an readable Media File....

I was afraid that my Vidcard DIED again...but I played SH3 yesterday and my PC didnt crash so i,m glad that didnt happen.

but still I,m afraid its about converting to an Movie file my system will crash so...I stop making movies to prefent more damage.

robj250 08-02-06 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX
:-? Well, I think my Movie Making is over....

Cause lately when I created an Movie in the game called ''The Movies Game'' My PC crashed.....and that happend when I,m converting the Movie to an readable Media File....

I was afraid that my Vidcard DIED again...but I played SH3 yesterday and my PC didnt crash so i,m glad that didnt happen.

but still I,m afraid its about converting to an Movie file my system will crash so...I stop making movies to prefent more damage.

I sincerely hope you are able to get things repaired so that you can continue to make movies. Best of Luck.

stabiz 08-02-06 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX
:-? Well, I think my Movie Making is over....

Cause lately when I created an Movie in the game called ''The Movies Game'' My PC crashed.....and that happend when I,m converting the Movie to an readable Media File....

I was afraid that my Vidcard DIED again...but I played SH3 yesterday and my PC didnt crash so i,m glad that didnt happen.

but still I,m afraid its about converting to an Movie file my system will crash so...I stop making movies to prefent more damage.

That actually happened to me a number of times when I was using Windows Movie Maker. never happened with Ulead Videostudio 9.

tbarak 08-02-06 01:31 PM

Your system is likely crashing because of low virtual memory. Increasing your RAM helps a lot. I currently run only 500 Megs of RAM and so far with FRAPS or Flash I've had no problems. I had a major melt down when working in Doom3, when I tried to compile a large map and in the middle I ran out of memory. Damn thing erased the level!!! It was totally gone, couldn't even retrieve it with special software. Incremental saves saved me there but I lost about a solid week of work. I think a good rule of thumb these days is to have 1GB of RAM if you do anything with audio or video production.

FRAPS isn't a bad program in fact that's what I use. But the fact of the matter is the format it records in is memory intensive so you better have a huge HD or maybe transfer your raw footage to CD to free up system memory.

If I had more time I would offer to edit your guys' stuff and/or simply transfer your finished movies to swf files to save the horrendous file sizes. Of course for people to watch the swf version would require them to have the latest Flash plug-in. But its free and most people have it already installed anyway.

robj250 08-02-06 02:21 PM

Looks like I'm done!!!
 
I have tried to load SH3, three times on the past hour, I even cleaned the CD, but it will not go past the loading screen; it crashes and I get a Windows error stating something to do with recognizing the CD number. The loading screen bar goes about 1/3 across and then it just disappears.

So, I guess that's it for U-51 :damn:

mountainmanUK 08-02-06 03:11 PM

@Robj250,
Rather than just cleaning the CD....have you tried cleaning the CD/DVD DRIVE itself? I had a similar problem a while ago, also when trying to reinstall SH3!!!

it helps too, if you have done a good "clean-up" and defrag of your HD before installing.

Hope this helps. GOOD LUCK
Cheers

Dave

robj250 08-02-06 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainmanUK
@Robj250,
Rather than just cleaning the CD....have you tried cleaning the CD/DVD DRIVE itself? I had a similar problem a while ago, also when trying to reinstall SH3!!!

it helps too, if you have done a good "clean-up" and defrag of your HD before installing.

Hope this helps. GOOD LUCK
Cheers

Dave

Hi Dave: I cleaned up all the files using cleanmgr, then I did a defrag, and I went to town and purchased a DVD/CDRom lens cleaner.

It didn't help. The program (SH3) still crashed.

I called Ubisoft some time ago and spoke to them about replacement DVD and they said they would not replace, because I purchased SH3 through Amazon.ca rather then Ubisoft.

I am not pleased.:down:

Thanks for trying to help Dave.

It looks like my career is all over in Sept 43 and I can't even finish the patrol and U-51 will no longer exist.

This is the error I get:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7807/0033uh4.jpg

mountainmanUK 08-03-06 01:14 AM

@Robj250,

Am I correct in assuming that you have now unistalled your previous SH3 completely?
If so, are you sure that you manually deleted (or moved and renamed) all the stuff that gets left behind? Uninstalling SH3 by running its own uninstaller, or through Control Panel "Add/Remove Programs", will not completely take out everything. You will probably still have a "SH3" folder in "My Documents", plus a heap of other folders still in "program Files" (these will include any Mods you had added). It pays to use Windows Explorer to have a good look yourself, to make sure that absolutely EVERYTHING is gone, or a futute reinstall may not work.
Also, if you have a Registry Cleaner, run that as well, after taking out all the extra stuff manually.
Once you are sure that everything is gone, reboot the box, then defrag it, then reboot again, before trying a reinstall from DVD.

Some of the stuff left behind probably includes things from the 1.3b "patch" etc., so the Installer will get itself tied in knots when it tries to load a newer copy over the top.

If you have a Career that you wish to "save", remember to move the relevant Careers from the SH3 folder (in My Documents), so that you have a chance of running it again later.

Also, if you run SH3Commander, try "rolling-back" and uninstalling that first, then reinstall it AFTER you get a working SH3 back up and running again.

No doubt one of our more "techy" SH3 whizz-kids will understand that Error Message better than me......but at least it's worth giving things a go in the meantime!
Don't give up hope buddy!!!

Cheers

Dave

P.S. Just another thought! Did your SH3 only screw up after you started making movies?? Might be somehow related? (Graphics manipulation software etc. etc.)

robj250 08-03-06 04:30 PM

Problem Solved
 
Hi guys, thanks for your encouragement. Thus problem is solved. See the thread "SH3 crashed while loading" for the solution.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...644#post289644

robj250 08-03-06 04:35 PM

Trying to get a close-up of ...
 
the navigation map in the command room. I've seen it in some of the guys movies but I cannot remember who. If someone has a short "movie" clip showing this, can you send it to me please, 'cause I don't seem to be able to get it. I would like to place it in my movie.

I'm not referring to the Nav Map where our sub and everything else appears on (F5)

PM me and I'll give you my email address where you can send it.

Thanks a bunch guys for all the movies.


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