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JSLTIGER 02-16-06 12:22 PM

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I agree with subman...the millions starving today...the hundreds dying in wars takes a back seat to this non-sense...American reporters or reporters in general are nerds...I always think of the song "Dirty Laundry"...when I think about most reporters....what a sucky job..I would rather dig in real dirt that the crap they dig around in. :lost: SOS...

I am becoming convinced they are trying to stir up trouble too, just to make a story. Maybe this free press has a problem in this area. I see they are posting storys of the old prison problems again. This is dead and gone years ago, so whyt are they posting it again? It can only be to stir up more violent protests so that they can get more stories. Our press is rather disgusting lately.

-S

:huh: Lately?????

SUBMAN1 02-16-06 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by Iceman
I agree with subman...the millions starving today...the hundreds dying in wars takes a back seat to this non-sense...American reporters or reporters in general are nerds...I always think of the song "Dirty Laundry"...when I think about most reporters....what a sucky job..I would rather dig in real dirt that the crap they dig around in. :lost: SOS...

I am becoming convinced they are trying to stir up trouble too, just to make a story. Maybe this free press has a problem in this area. I see they are posting storys of the old prison problems again. This is dead and gone years ago, so whyt are they posting it again? It can only be to stir up more violent protests so that they can get more stories. Our press is rather disgusting lately.

-S

:huh: Lately?????

I should rephraise that as more disgusting lately. Is that better? And yes, you are right! Just that these new prison photos are uncalled for.

-S

tycho102 02-16-06 05:18 PM

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I should rephraise that as more disgusting lately. Is that better? And yes, you are right! Just that these new prison photos are uncalled for.

-S

Not so much that, as they are running them full out non-censored. Whereas, in the interest of....sensitivity, they wouldn't run the Muhammed cartoons.

They are obviously physically scared by the Moslems, and because of that fear, have become anti-American in all the ways that they can be and still conduct business within United States borders. And it's the brave men and women who have been defending these cowards for decades, allowing them to out-breed the courageous.

America has a pacifist problem far greater than pre-World War I and pre-World War II, and the media is just an indicator.

CCIP 02-17-06 12:22 AM

For some of us 'pacifist' and 'problem' don't go along very well in the same sentence :roll:

When it comes to something like Iran's nuclear capability, a more forceful solution is plausible. Otherwise, there's perfectly peaceful ways to put pressure on the Muslim world. Just that noone seems to be willing to do that... :hmm:

SUBMAN1 02-17-06 03:30 PM

Well it is good that people support their VP. He has had a hard week. Even the guy he shot feels bad for him. There is also good news - all the hunter saftey courses are using this incident to promote courses on hunters saftey saying they couldn't ask for better publicity. It is good to see some good come out of something bad.

-S

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...w104218S91.DTL

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Cheney Gets Ovation From Wyo. Lawmakers
By BEN NEARY, Associated Press Writer

Friday, February 17, 2006

(02-17) 10:54 PST Cheyenne, Wyo. (AP) --


Vice President Dick Cheney returned to his home state Friday, getting a standing ovation from lawmakers shortly after the lawyer he accidentally shot made his first public comments about Saturday's hunting trip.


"I want to thank you for that welcome home," Cheney told the Wyoming lawmakers.


"It's a wonderful experience to be greeted by such warmth by the leaders of our great state. It's especially true when you've had a very long week. Thankfully, Harry Whittington is on the mend and doing very well."


In Corpus Christi, Texas, the 78-year-old Whittington stood outside the hospital where he has been treated, telling reporters he was sorry for all the trouble Cheney had faced since the accidental shooting during a quail hunting trip in South Texas.


"We all assume certain risks in what we do, in what activities we pursue," Whittington said. "Accidents do and will happen."


Dr. David Blanchard, the hospital's chief of emergency care, said Whittington was being released Friday because of "his excellent health," but added that Whittington wasn't answering questions because "he is not 100 percent."


He said the Austin attorney was "a lucky person" to survive the shooting.


Whittington was hit in the face, neck and chest with birdshot Saturday during the hunting trip. After a shotgun pellet traveled to his heart, he had suffered a mild heart attack Tuesday while being treated at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial.


On Wednesday, Cheney took full blame for the shooting.


"I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend," Cheney told Fox News in his first public comments since the shooting. He said it was "one of the worst days of my life."


Whittington said the past weekend encompassed "a cloud of misfortune and sadness."


"My family and I are deeply sorry for everything Vice President Cheney and his family have had to deal with," he said.


He also thanked the hospital staff and said he was "a lucky person" to survive the shooting.


On Thursday, President Bush said critics were drawing "the wrong conclusion about a tragic accident" when they say the delayed disclosure of the mishap was an indicator of an overly secretive White House.


Bush said Cheney handled the situation "just fine."


"I'm satisfied with the explanation he gave," Bush said, calling it "strong and powerful."


In Texas, the Kenedy County Sheriff's Department has closed its investigation without filing any charges. The department's report supported Cheney's account of the accident.


Cheney told an investigator that he did not see his hunting partner while aiming for a bird. The report also included the first public account from Whittington, interviewed from his hospital bed Monday.


Whittington "explained foremost there was no alcohol during the hunt and everyone was wearing the proper hunting attire of blaze orange," reported Chief Deputy Gilberto San Miguel Jr.


For his first public appearance since the shooting, Cheney chose the Wyoming Legislature, where in 1965 he worked as an intern and met Alan Simpson, then a rookie state legislator who would go on to be the No. 2 Republican in the U.S. Senate.


Ten years later, after doing postgraduate work in political science, Cheney went to Washington and served as White House chief of staff to President Ford. He was elected in 1978 to Wyoming's lone seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, serving until 1989, when he resigned to become secretary of defense under the first President Bush.


Cheney remains popular in Wyoming. He received a loud ovation four years ago when he last addressed the legislature


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Associated Press writers Lynn Brezosky in Corpus Christi, Texas, and Nedra Pickler in Washington contributed to this report.

RickC Sniper 02-17-06 08:02 PM

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RickC Sniper 02-17-06 08:02 PM

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Bort 02-18-06 10:51 AM

Deadeye Dick's Gun Club :rotfl:
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STEED 02-21-06 07:27 AM

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STEED 02-22-06 11:38 AM

The Plot thickens read on -


From Capitol Hill Blue

The Rant
Secret Service agents say Cheney was drunk when he shot lawyer
By DOUG THOMPSON
Feb 22, 2006, 07:35



A written report from Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago says Cheney was "clearly inebriated" at the time of the shooting.

Agents observed several members of the hunting party, including the Vice President, consuming alcohol before and during the hunting expedition, the report notes, and Cheney exhibited "visible signs" of impairment, including slurred speech and erratic actions, the report said.

According to those who have read the report and talked with others present at the outing, Cheney was drunk when he gunned down his friend and the day-and-a-half delay in allowing Texas law enforcement officials on the ranch where the shooting occurred gave all members of the hunting party time to sober up.

We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident" and all admit Secret Service agents and others saw Cheney consume far more than the "one beer' he claimed he drank at lunch earlier that day.

"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."

Cheney has a long history of alcohol abuse, including two convictions of driving under the influence when he was younger. Doctors tell me that someone like Cheney, who is taking blood thinners because of his history of heart attacks, could get legally drunk now after consuming just one drink.

If Cheney was legally drunk at the time of the shooting, he could be guilty of a felony under Texas law and the shooting, ruled an accident by a compliant Kenedy County Sheriff, would be a prosecutable offense.

But we will never know for sure because the owners of the Armstrong Ranch, where the shooting occurred, barred the sheriff's department from the property on the day of the shooting and Kenedy County Sheriff Ramon Salinas III agreed to wait until the next day to send deputies in to talk to those involved.

Sheriff's Captain Charles Kirk says he went to the Armstrong Ranch immediately after the shooting was reported on Saturday, February 11 but both he and a game warden were not allowed on the 50,000-acre property. He called Salinas who told him to forget about it and return to the station.

"I told him don't worry about it. I'll make a call," Salinas said. The sheriff claims he called another deputy who moonlights at the Armstrong ranch, said he was told it was "just an accident" and made the decision to wait until Sunday to investigate.

"We've known these people for years. They are honest and wouldn't call us, telling us a lie," Salinas said.

Like all elected officials in Kenedy County, Salinas owes his job to the backing and financial support of Katherine Armstrong, owner of the ranch and the county's largest employer.

"The Armstrongs rule Kenedy County like a fiefdom," says a former employee.

Secret Service officials also took possession of all tests on Whittington's blood at the hospitals where he was treated for his wounds. When asked if a blood alcohol test had been performed on Whittington, the doctors who treated him at Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial in Corpus Christi or the hospital in Kingsville refused to answer. One admits privately he was ordered by the Secret Service to "never discuss the case with the press."

It's a sure bet that is a private doctor who treated the victim of Cheney's reckless and drunken actions can't talk to the public then the memo that shows the Vice President was drunk as a skunk will never see the light of day.

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