Actually it's not just heat it's also cold. A cold tank will show as well.
You are looking at thermal images. The picture you are getting are all the temperature variances from different levels of cold to different levels of heat.
Heat is the best though as it shows up brighter.

Anyway again don't get me wrong, I think this sim looks to be an awesome achievment, just hate comparisons between sims of different genres, and am sad no one is going to do a comparable WWII tank sim so if ever.

Both sims attempt to simulate the real world, in one of them you don't have tanks, in the other you don't have ships, where's the genre difference? It seems in this sim you don't actually operate every single function in the tanks, but you can get the same effect in DW if you turn auto-crew for every station.

I can't compare land to water, but I can compare graphics, visual effects, gameplay, interface, general realism/authenticity and atmosphere. I think these sum it up nicely:

Must be blasphemy to your ears, please don't hate him!

OUCH!!! Imagine how many sims and games Skybird knows! He's making more cross-genre comparisons than we could ever think of! THIS ANGERS ME! :hulk:

OOOOOOH! He's comparing M1 tank platoon 2 to 688!!! AHH, the rage! :damn:

Anyway, I'll rephrase yet again if I must:

This sim is like Dangerous Waters with full auto-crew on land, but better, aside from the lack of water.

Did I get it right this time or should I try my luck comparing real Apples and Oranges?

Let's see, they are both mostly spherical and both grow in trees, they both stick to the trees through a little branch which may have one or more leafs attached. Both are fruits, so they both have seeds on the inside and both can be used to make juice, both have vibrant colors and both have healthy nutrients. If I didn't knew it was a figure of speech, I'd say Apples and Oranges are more similar than DW and SBP. :rotfl: :up: :arrgh!:

But of course, I would also love a sim this realistic set in WW2, that I can dream of.

DW and SBP are two different genres (navy versus mechanized land warfar), it can't be much more different, or would anyone say Falcon 4 is the same genre as these two as well...? But all three sims try a high-realism approach onto their different genres. Okay. Now can we leave this nonsens debate behind, maybe? I strongly would recommend so. Don't know what Dingsbums is talking about.

Terry's Chocolate Apple.

...doesn't quite have the same ring to it. :dead:

Sigh, again the point is forget it you don't get the point.

It seems if you just want the most realistic sim out there no matter what you would get this sim, for me it is
A) A subject that I don't feel passionate about

B) Too expensive given A) that is all

If I loved modern armour as much as "ancient stuff" you can BET I would be willing to go without lunch for 3 weeks to buy this fabulous creation.

What gets me is the fact that some "realism" nuts would look down their noses at folks who play other sims assuming they don't care about realism. That's exactly what the remarks about the DW crowd getting pissed by comparisons with a better sim are, when the subject is so different. Look if I found a more realistic WWII sub sim than SH3 I would play it, I want the most realistic sim in the subjects that interest me and dislike it when someone mocks my choice because the sim in his favorite subject is more realistic. If I am allergic or hate apples I would either eat a dry orange or if the orange is really bad nothing at all, maybe a peach. :know:

I get the point, my previous post is a proof of it, if you don't want to play the game, not SBP or DW, but the comparison game, that's fine, indeed, it is unfair to derail Skybird's thread.

I do think we both could learn alot from that experience though.

I especially liked my comparison between Apples and Oranges, I think that shows how you can change your view depending on your perspective, you could easily point many more differences between Apples and Oranges, how should we decide if they are more similar or different from each other then?! By counting points?!

Or by perspective, we must make deliberate decisions and limit outselves to what we are comparing, number of molecules? Size? Color? Texture? Flavour? All fruits are equal, yet different. Fruits are contradictory, they contain multitudes (twisted phrase from Walt Whitman).

You made great points, that fit into my SPB/DW comparison too, you decide which sim is better for you, I decide which sim is better for me. And I can play all of them, why would I uninstall DW for SH3 and vice-versa? I'm keeping both of them.

DW is like SH3, but better, on interactivity.

SH3 is like DW, but better, on gameplay.

SBP is like DW and SH3, with full auto-crew, on land, aside from the lack of ships, but better, on innovative fun.

Sorry Skybird, but I have too much fun with this, last useless post, I promise.

joea, have a peach:
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/420...ach69182wq.jpg
You're right, damn thing looks like a mix between an Apple and an Orange. :rotfl:

TteFAboB:
:up: :rotfl:

I told ya peaches are great... :-j

Good post btw.

Well I am getting interested in ground warfare, the only game I have in that genre is Steel Panthers World at War. Sorry about hijacking your thread Sky. :oops:

No problem. I am expert in hijacking threads myself.

An insiders view
 

Gday Guys

I've been coming here since DW came out.

I'm part of the beta/dev team for SB pro PE. Thought i might address a couple of points here.

Price:- Anyone here fly Il2? To be current with IL2 I've spent more on it than the $125 for SB pro PE. In terms of what you get for the money SB wins hands down. It may not have the same eye candy but its depth of play and potential out strips it.

Shadows:- Will be coming one day. Does it effect the immersion?, not a bit. Believe me within a few minutes of an MP game you will be so busy and so enthralled that you won't notice the lack of them.

Scope:- One thing that SB really does shine on is the way the forces are dealt with. Don't think in terms of the way flight sims are played. This is a sim where you can have Battalion sized forces on each side. If the units on your side are set to human controlled you can jump to them at will and give them direct steering commands or orders ( for non crewable units) or jump into any station if its a crewable unit. In Multi Play other people can do the same on the other side. There is no respawning, a battle is the forces you start with(there is a spawn if on units but thats to simulate reinforcements not a respawn system). Basically in MP it has elements of a wargame as well.

Now don't get me wrong this isn't a sales pitch. if you are not seriously interested in Modern armoured warfare this is probably not the sim for you. Its not BF2 but by the same token BF2 is definately NOT SB pro PE

DA

(DarkAngel on the SB.com forums)

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