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Skybird 08-24-22 09:06 AM

There has been nmore photo footage been released.


Its not really a "scandal", but a breach of etiquette, bad style, and since more "revelations" followed the first shot, it indicates a loss of control on her side. At leats thats what it gets interpreted as. This results in a loss of prestige, and herein - and exclusively - lies the problem. Because she is not ordinary Sue working in the supermarket and filling up the shelves, but a prime minister representing a country. Thats something slightly different, and commands more "style", "class".


"Bilder machen Leute."

Rockstar 08-24-22 12:09 PM

Exactly, every time she takes to the podium to speak. I’m not thinking hey there’s the Prime Minister of Finland who deserves some respect. I’m thinking oh look it’s the bimbo, boy I bet she’d look hot as hell dressed in a skimpy French maid costume. :arrgh!:

http://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1bCzRoN...fq6ACFXXat.jpg

Jeff-Groves 08-24-22 12:23 PM

Based on the link you posted?
Maybe she looks like this?
https://media.entertainmentearth.com...cbe5dc4673.jpg

Jeff-Groves 08-24-22 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2824534)
There has been nmore photo footage been released.


Its not really a "scandal", but a breach of etiquette, bad style, and since more "revelations" followed the first shot, it indicates a loss of control on her side. At leats thats what it gets interpreted as. This results in a loss of prestige, and herein - and exclusively - lies the problem. Because she is not ordinary Sue working in the supermarket and filling up the shelves, but a prime minister representing a country. Thats something slightly different, and commands more "style", "class".


"Bilder machen Leute."

Now that sounds like a Clinton who famously stated......
'Basket Of Deplorables,'

Mean while the German leaders say one thing and do another. And I see nothing being done about that Putin sympathizer and cohort.

Rockstar 08-24-22 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2824558)
Based on the link you posted?
Maybe she looks like this?
https://media.entertainmentearth.com...cbe5dc4673.jpg

Looking over the photos taken of PM hoochie mama I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t look like that. Her side piece Olavi Uusivirta might look good in it through. :03:

Jeff-Groves 08-24-22 12:58 PM

Hell. I'd Vote for her if I lived in Findland!
She reminds me of my Wife. And my Wife likes to relax and have fun.
But.... She has broken more noses when a fight goes down then many of my Male friends!
NEVER under estimate a BITCH on a Mission!

August 08-24-22 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2824554)
Exactly, every time she takes to the podium to speak. I’m not thinking hey there’s the Prime Minister of Finland who deserves some respect. I’m thinking oh look it’s the bimbo, boy I bet she’d look hot as hell dressed in a skimpy French maid costume. :arrgh!:


I'd bet you'd look hot as hell dressed in a skimpy French maid costume as well but unless that is what the Finnish PM wore in any of those pics or videos then i'd say your picture is a bit over the top.

August 08-24-22 02:48 PM

In other Finnish news the Finns Party, either a right wing or center left opposition party depending on who you are talking to, is gaining in popularity.


Quote:

HS: Support for Finns Party jumps by more than a percentage point

THE NATIONAL COALITION sits at the top of the latest opinion poll by Helsingin Sanomat.

The newspaper revealed this morning that support for the right-wing opposition party decreased by 0.9 percentage points from the previous poll to 23.0 per cent, leaving it with a 2.9-point advantage over the Social Democrats. The opposition party has lost some of the supporters it won over in the aftermath of its successful municipal election campaign last year.
“Although the National Coalition is still clearly the most well supported party, it’s currently leaning more heavily on support from people who voted for it in the municipal elections than a month ago,” Sakari Nurmela, the managing director of Kantar Public, commented to Helsingin Sanomat.
Support for the Social Democrats continued on its stable, slightly upward trajectory by creeping up by 0.2 points to 20.1 per cent.
“The change from the previous month is very minor even though the party did get across to the right side of a kind of a psychological barrier as its popularity rose to over 20 per cent,” analysed Nurmela.
The Finns Party saw its popularity increase by 1.3 points to 16.0 per cent. Nurmela estimated that the populist right-wing opposition party has managed to canvass support among voters after taking a step back in the polls during the Nato debate.
“Over the past month, people who abstained from voting in the municipal elections have voiced their support for the Finns Party,” he said.
The three parties are well separated from other political parties in Finland.
Support for the Centre fell by 0.6 points to 11.0 per cent as some of its former supporters continue to shun it in favour of the National Coalition. The number of former supporters monitoring the situation from the sidelines has similarly increased, according to Nurmela.
The other parties recorded only minor changes in their approval ratings. The Green League and Movement Now both saw their popularity increase by 0.1 points to 9.9 and 2.3 per cent, respectively. The Left Alliance and Swedish People’s Party recorded a drop of 0.1 points in support, falling to 7.6 and 4.5 per cent, respectively.
The Christian Democrats saw its popularity slip by 0.2 points to 3.4 per cent.
Kantar Public interviewed 2,586 people for the poll between 18 June and 12 August. Slightly more than one-third (34%) of the people contacted were unable or unwilling to disclose which party would receive their vote if the parliamentary elections were held now.
The poll results have a margin of error of +/-2.1 points as far as the largest parties are concerned.
Aleksi Teivainen – HT

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland...age-point.html

Skybird 08-24-22 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2824554)
Exactly, every time she takes to the podium to speak. I’m not thinking hey there’s the Prime Minister of Finland who deserves some respect. I’m thinking oh look it’s the bimbo, boy I bet she’d look hot as hell dressed in a skimpy French maid costume. :arrgh!:

http://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1bCzRoN...fq6ACFXXat.jpg


That maybe is a bit too much to describe her, but its about the loss of control this affair displays, and which is being interpreted as weakness. Also, since the first video there have been more releases, new photo of two of her females guests showing topless and covering themsleves with a Finnish flag, and two other female guests, who danced closely entwined lasciviously with each other.


He rlatest appearnce at a press confernce where she apologized, did not make it better. Not becasue she apologized, but becasue she showed more extrenely emptional vuzlneraiblity, almost cried.


You cannot do this in a job/position like thta, sorry. abolsuzely no go, the whole chain of event. Youz complain about wnating to have a priuvate life, Sann Marion? Quit and leave the media's search lights. As a prime minister, you have to accept being put under the media'S microscope and trioggering reactions like these - and you have to be prepared to not provoke them and you have to understand why that must be so.



The leader of a country is no ordinary private person like any other. He/she cannot be. Because he is accountable and so everybody has a right to know about him/her. And so: constant observation.



Don't like it? Don't candidate for this job. All problems solved.

Rockstar 08-24-22 04:55 PM

My point wasn’t to describe her the point was who can take her seriously as a prime minister? She can talk all she wants now about climate change, the children, economy, whatever. But after seeing her three sheets into the wind, hanging out with naked chicks, bumping uglies on the dance floor at the official summer residence. My mind will instead immediately wander, “boy I bet she’d look hot in a skimpy French maid costume” . :D

You know she would too.

Rockstar 08-24-22 05:55 PM

Anyone want to bet how good time sally got the job of prime minister? :yep:

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/columns...-minister.html

Quote:

Marin was not elected as the prime minister by popular vote. When in Dec. 2019 the centre party, announced that it had lost confidence in Antti Rinne, the leader of the Social Democratic Party and elected prime minister of the time, The Social Democratic party council, consisting of 61 members including the outgoing prime minister Rinne, voted to select one of the two deputy leaders of the party to replace Rinne as the party leader. Rinne’s protégé, Marin won by 32 of the votes. Thus a few members of the social democratic party decided that the country should be run by a recently graduated first-time MP in her 30s, with no experience in leadership and her only real-world job experience being a summer cashier of a department store.

There were many experienced politicians within the party, but that is not how it works, it’s not about competence or experience or what’s best for the country, but the internal dynamics, relations and favouritism within the group.


Rockstar 08-24-22 05:59 PM

Going on the apology tour.

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland...residence.html

Quote:

Just a day after the video leaks of Finland’s young prime minister partying at private apartments and snuggling up with Finnish singer and actor Olavi Uusivirta in a Helsinki night club, she had to apologise for new images posted on TikTok.

The image depicts two topless women, reality TV persona Sabina Särkkä, and poet Natalia Kallio, kissing in the bathroom of the prime minister’s official residence.

One of the women is covering her bare breasts with the sign “Finland” which is usually used to indicate participants of a meeting.
Another video published by a tabloid yesterday shows the prime minister dancing - hips locked and knees interlaced - with ms. Särkkä in a Helsinki nigh club at the early hours of Sunday 7th of August, the night after the private party videos were shot.
The image is part of a video titled “Kesärata 22”, where singer, songwriter Alma is improvising a rap about “boobs.” The video was later removed from the TikTok account of Särkkä.

“I saw the image this morning. Yes the images are shot in the official residence (Kesäranta) on the Sunday after (the music festival) Ruisrock. I had friends over. We swam and went to the sauna and spent time in the yard. The images are apparently taken in the downstairs bathroom which was available to guests”, said Marin. “In my opinion the image is not appropriate and shouldn’t have been taken”

The official residence of the prime minister has traditionally been used for representation and most previous prime ministers have not lived there. Marin and his family moved to the residence from the beginning of her post and the couple’s wedding ceremony was also held there. It is unprecedented that the residence had been used for private parties.

Last year, it turned out that Marin had used state funds to order “breakfast” and cold meals for herself and her family on daily basis. The so called breakfast allowance which was originally meant for occasional use, when the prime minister and guests would stay in the residence was according to commentators stretched too far. The benefit was also not mentioned in the prime minister’s tax reports, Marin later apologised and returned some of the used benefits; the sum of €14 000 to taxpayers.

mapuc 08-24-22 06:09 PM

It could have been worse-It could have been a leaked video of Trump or Boris dancing topless.

Markus

Rockstar 08-24-22 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2824629)
It could have been worse-It could have been a leaked video of Trump or Boris dancing topless.

Markus

Egads seeing that would have scarred us all for life. :timeout:

As it stands now Boris was booted out of his position for less and Trump is still being hounded. In the case Finlands Prime Grocery Clerk and Cashier I guess being perceived has a poor helpless hoochie mama helps.

August 08-24-22 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2824627)
Anyone want to bet how good time sally got the job of prime minister? :yep:

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/columns...-minister.html

I believe that's how every Finnish PM gets their job as in the Parliamentary system Prime Ministers are chosen by the ruling party, not by direct election like our POTUS.


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