The political establishments today are forms of the organised crimes, and profi politicians representing it and living by it in a parasytical manner are gangsters and mafiosi. Who cares for a mafia ganster or a godfather getting shot or injured? I refuse to care for their interests, and disposijng them to me is an act of self defence.

So stop whining about somebody throwing a shoe at this gangster. I think she got an easy getway. She is just a gangster, sucking your money and claiming you to be owing her your obedience. Her and the many other gangsters like her.

This political system and establishment is completely corrupted. Do not defend it. You become guilty by doing so. Do not prepare these gangsters a stage from which to project their destructive influence. Deny them all loyalty, respect and obedience, and money and work. You cannot vote them to go away. When they go, tbey pop up again somewhere else, and somebody being exactly like themselves takes their former post, and there you are at the starting line again. A hamster in a treadmill cannot defeat the system, and never gets anywhere.

The mafia system prevails. No matter whom you vote for. Your freedom to choose is an illusion, since alternatives to supporting the mafia system are refused to you and are withheld from you. Any vote you give, no matter whom you vote for, is a legitimation of the mafia controlling and designing the system.

They threw a shoe at one mafia girl? Better cry that they did not throw her out of the window instead.

Politics are organized crime? Have you seen the Australian Parliament recently? Do you know how many parties we have? Between the Communist Party and the Sex Party, it's amazing anybody actually gets a majority vote. And if organized crime equals giving money to schools, arresting people who use taxpayer's money on prostitutes, and giving aid to other countries who are in an emergency... you know what? In no universe would that be considered criminal. Your entire theory is based on the 'politicians are all evil' stereotype.

Also, I'm not whining that someone threw a shoe at her. I actually find it kind of funny. I'm just saying that it's a good thing she didn't get hit.

Anyway, I know it's no use talking to you when you get like this, so from now on, I'm not even going to bother. Looking forward to talking to you when you calm down a bit :salute:

Sure, I don't want to see her beaned by a size 8 but I would not be aghast if she was.

The story of Benghazi goes deeper then a few angry Muslims. The talking points initially spooned fed are not what they seem. These are her representatives stationed around the world. It is 9/11 and it seems any initiative for vigilance on this infamous day in history was not exercised. Who is to be held responsible?

Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. I'd feel a bit sorry for her, but not much else.

Whoever was in charge of security. If that was Mrs. Clinton, then she's responsible. But she still regrets it. I'm not saying she should be absolved from responsibility though.

I doubt that the Muslims were doing it just because it was 9/11 (hey guys, to prove that we're not all like Al-Qaeda, let's kill some Americans on the day that Al-Qaeda killed thousands of Americans!), but security still should've been increased, lest some extremist in the area decides to celebrate 9/11 by killing a few Americans.

I don't and never will feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. She is and has been self serving.

As far as a few angry Muslims it is hard to explain the rocket launchers used in the embassy attack. Even so, it is 9/11. A day were security at all embassies should be paramount.

Rocket launchers? Sounds like they got help from a terrorist group. But yeah, the security should've been very high on that day.

Ultimately she did not know but it was on her watch and she will be pinned with it from here in out. At any rate, I think the country has seen enough of the Clintons, Bushs and Obamas. She really needs to retire along with her husband.

You are so perfect the submissive, obedient and convinced citizen that they certainly sooner or later will try to clone you, to make themselves the population they want. ;) One which has internalised the collective Stockholm syndrome almost the genetic level.

From an article I posted some weeks ago already, this excerpt:

The mafia state of mind is all about extracting wealth that could not be extracted without state enforcement, monopoly and covert systems of control and extortion.

When there is no other choice but submission, when voting for either party yields the same results, the mafia state of mind reigns supreme. The mafia state of mind exists in all ideological flavors--socialist, capitalist, communist. The mafia state of mind is simple: leave the populace no choice but submission, enforce monopolies of control and power, and then extract and extort to your heart's content.

Once the mafia state of mind has seeped into every nook and cranny of the society and economy, it's not even recognized as corruption: it's simply the way the system works. And so the residents of nominal democracies in Asia, Europe and the Americas do not even realize how thoroughly corrupted their societies and economies really are; they cling to the illusions of choice even as their incomes, wealth and political influence are funneled into the hands of various elites by overlapping extortion rackets.

I'm not submissive. I'm fed up with how governments keep serving themselves rather than the people. Perhaps I'm simply not as cynical as other here because I'm only 14 years old, and don't really keep up with politics. I simply don't accuse people of something based on stereotypes and when I don't see the evidence to support the accusation.

Also, that's an insult, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to report you. I actually liked you for a while.

Look on the bright side, it's really a compliment.
As on the other hand no one in their right mind would want to be cloned into the sort of population Skybird wants for his dystopian feudal fantasy world.

The one with all the tiny little city states? Perhaps he should look up Ancient Greece sometime to see how well that system works...

When you allow others to turn your moral values into a tool by which you get blackmailed into obedience with their rules, claims, and demands, then that is not clever and their power relies on your weakness. In other words: its not about your morals, but their claims for you and over you.

I recommend to stop and to refuse to obey their rules, tberefore.

The examples you gave earlier what you want the state to do, you can all support, if you want - but stick to your own belongings that you spend on that. Stop making claims for the belongings of others, to use other peoples possession according to your liking.
Youre welcome! Youre not the first and you are unlikely to be the last. And actually, and just btw, that was grim irony what I said.

No need to go that far back, just take the examples he uses to support his strange vision and note that they all had the very problems(on a massive scale) that he claims such a system would somehow cure.

So to take that Churchill quote he is fond of using about the current systems and work it.
The system he advocates has been tried repeatedly before, every time it has been tried it has proven to be complete bollocks.

One of my moral values are only to obey authority that acts in your best interests and respects you and your rights. If they start using their power for wrong... well, I could always form my own breakaway state if things got too bad :)




Sorry, I don't quite get what you're trying to say here. That's OK though, seeing as English isn't your native language.


Well, now I feel less insulted :) guess I overreacted just a bit. Let's get back to getting along :)

The master race in action
 

Sorry wrong topic.