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Jimbuna 02-17-14 12:19 PM

If I hadn't watched his speech today on the news I would never believe it...now Salmond reckons UK firms could face huge taxation costs because the chancellor and the Bank Of England as well as both main opposition parties have ruled out a currency union with an independant Scotland.

Excuse me Mr Salmond but I do believe you are missing a fundamental point here...it is YOU who wishes to leave the union and any consequences are as a direct result of the actions you are promoting.

If you want to keep the Pound then let the status quo continue.

We all know what your Plan A is but you don't have a Plan B do you?

Pretty soon the hole you're digging will be too deep for you to climb out of and Cameron is quite correct when he said earlier today that you are "The man without a plan".

Quote:

Blocking an independent Scotland's ability to share the pound could damage business in the rest of the UK, First Minister Alex Salmond has said.

Mr Salmond said the UK Treasury could impose "hundreds of millions of pounds" in costs on firms if plans for a post-Yes currency union were rejected.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26220638

Herr-Berbunch 02-17-14 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2175763)
If you want to keep the Pound then let the status quo continue.

Funny you should mention the musical masters :hmmm: -

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-2014021783678

Warning - one small expletive in the link

TarJak 02-17-14 03:50 PM

When do they go to the polls? I'm going to be spending a week in Bonnie Jockland in July and don't want to get trapped on the wrong side of the border after it closes.

Herr-Berbunch 02-17-14 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2175838)
When do they go to the polls? I'm going to be spending a week in Bonnie Jockland in July and don't want to get trapped on the wrong side of the border after it closes.

If you're there you might get a vote, seeing as the 366k English living in Scotland will do, but the 800k Scots elsewhere won't.

Bilge_Rat 02-17-14 04:01 PM

Having gone through two of these "independence" referendums myself (Quebec 1980 and 1995), I am glad to be the outside observer on this one. :D

BTW, the currency argument was used here in the 1980 referendum. The PQ was arguing for a common currency, the Feds said no way.

As Karl Marx said, history always repeats itself twice, once as tragedy and the second time as farce.

Good luck, Chaps.

TarJak 02-17-14 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2175843)
If you're there you might get a vote, seeing as the 366k English living in Scotland will do, but the 800k Scots elsewhere won't.

I'll get my pen out. The wife and kids have pommy citizenship so we can skew the vote for small fee. :)

Herr-Berbunch 02-17-14 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2175847)
I'll get my pen out. The wife and kids have pommy citizenship so we can skew the vote for small fee. :)

I don't think it's needed, but I could be wrong.

Jimbuna 02-17-14 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2175838)
When do they go to the polls? I'm going to be spending a week in Bonnie Jockland in July and don't want to get trapped on the wrong side of the border after it closes.

September.

mapuc 02-17-14 05:22 PM

A thought

If the Scots "discover" this independence from England wasn't that perfect as they thought it would be. Do you think they would run back and get a second "marriage" with England?

Markus

TarJak 02-17-14 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2175875)
September.

Och aye. Will ye be nipping across the border to vote?

MGR1 02-17-14 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2175890)
A thought

If the Scots "discover" this independence from England wasn't that perfect as they thought it would be. Do you think they would run back and get a second "marriage" with England?

Markus

In a word, NO. The rest of the UK won't want Scotland back.

As much as it pains me to post this, being pro-Union, I think that Osbourne's cocked up. He's a Tory as well, which makes it much more dangerous. His intervention is actually a boon to the Nationalists, being able to play on the outrage at being "imperiously" told that Scotland can't do something.

BBC News link here:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26158234

All Osbourne's managed to do is polarise, and envenom, the debate.:down: There's going to be too much emotion for properly reasoned debate, I fear.

Mike.:(

MGR1 02-17-14 06:29 PM

Right then, here's a list of the top ten issues that Scot's are most concerned about:

Economy
Currency
Pensions
Scotland's relationship with UK
Scotland's relationship with EU
Welfare
Defence
Immigration
Energy
Broadcasting

There was a program on BBC Two Scotland last week about it which was very interesting. If you want to have an idea what Scots are actually thinking, give it a watch. If your outwith the UK you'll need a proxy server as it's on the BBC iPlayer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Battlegrounds/

Here's the BBC News article covering it, plus an article from the Guardian:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26102076

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...m-sirtomhunter

Mike.

mapuc 02-17-14 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2175906)
Right then, here's a list of the top ten issues that Scot's are most concerned about:

Economy
Currency
Pensions
Scotland's relationship with UK
Scotland's relationship with EU
Welfare
Defence
Immigration
Energy
Broadcasting

There was a program on BBC Two Scotland last week about it which was very interesting. If you want to have an idea what Scots are actually thinking, give it a watch. If your outwith the UK you'll need a proxy server as it's on the BBC iPlayer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Battlegrounds/

Here's the BBC News article covering it, plus an article from the Guardian:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26102076

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...m-sirtomhunter

Mike.

Thanks for the links

Found the documentary on youtube

are watching part 1 right now
"scotland's smoking gun"

Markus

Garion 02-17-14 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2175906)
Right then, here's a list of the top ten issues that Scot's are most concerned about:

Economy
Currency
Pensions
Scotland's relationship with UK
Scotland's relationship with EU
Welfare
Defence
Immigration
Energy
Broadcasting

There was a program on BBC Two Scotland last week about it which was very interesting. If you want to have an idea what Scots are actually thinking, give it a watch. If your outwith the UK you'll need a proxy server as it's on the BBC iPlayer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Battlegrounds/

Here's the BBC News article covering it, plus an article from the Guardian:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26102076

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...m-sirtomhunter

Mike.

Yoo forgot "Will there be Duty free booze and fags if we get independence? ":arrgh!:
Cheers Jev

Jimbuna 02-18-14 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2175894)
Och aye. Will ye be nipping across the border to vote?

I'll probably be press ganged into rebuilding Hadrians Wall.


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