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Onkel Neal 01-24-14 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2167453)
Fix
Or
Replace
Daily

Mind you, two of my favorite cars I've owned have been Fords.

First
On
Race
Day :rock:

Yeah, when you have a close call, it really sharpens your mind and helps you slow down and appreciate life.

Red October1984 01-24-14 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2167509)
So you used a tire that is only supposed to last for 50 miles and shouldn't exceed 50mph or it will blow out.

You exceeded the speed.
In the week that the tire was on the car did you exceed the 50 miles of driving too?

You were lucky, that could have been a Darwin Award for yourself, or worse your negligent driving could have killed someone else.
Still maybe you will learn from your expensive mistake.

BTW you have written enough for your insurance company to invalidate your cover:yep:

Donut doesn't say there's a speed limit on it...and I was told mine was good for 120 miles or something like that.

I'm not in the mood for arguing over criticism. You weren't there. We can't prepare for how we're going to react in a freak accident. Instinct took over and I did my best.

I still picked the right ditch. If I had gone off to the other side I wouldn't be here.

There are so many other things that could've gone wrong. The donut tire did not blow out. It's still intact, however the rim is bent from the roll.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2167515)
Looking at what's left of the car, I'm not surprised. Glad you're okay. :sunny:

:up:

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2167546)
Glad you're OK, Red.

Seatbelt saved my life, and a rollcage - don't think the fibreglass roof would've done much for me. Clunk-click every trip. We rolled three times too, but finished on the wheels - doors wouldn't open but once I'd turned off the wipers we climbed out where the cabin roof and windscreen used to be.

The wipers still worked after the wreck? :har:

I think I had one interior light that worked and the one taillight worked after the wreck. Forget the wipers...

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2167557)
There's a good reason why I'm certain that the donut was the major variable in the equation. I was a parts man in a GM dealership for nine years. I was responsible for supplying the body shop and I've seen the aftermath of about every kind of wreck possible. A donut spare tire has a limited speed and length of use requirement. From what Red has told us, both were exceeded.

I drive no more than 10 miles a day to school and back. I had it on the car for 4 days.

Nobody ever told me there was a speed limit on the donut. That might have been a good idea to tell me that....

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Time to change your nick... to CrashOctober. That should really sit well with a flight instructor.:haha:

Full coverage insurance I hope.
:shifty:

And just liability and medical basically. Won't raise the cost very much (if it even raises it) because there were no moving violations.

I'll come out of this okay...but carless.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2167629)
First
On
Race
Day :rock:

Yeah, when you have a close call, it really sharpens your mind and helps you slow down and appreciate life.

Today was a drag. I have that "thousand yard stare" people talk about.

Not much to say...too much to think about.

Even if I would've hit that dog, I would've probably totaled that car anyway. Either way it would've ended bad with the way the road is.

____

Today I saw one of my best friends for the first time since yesterday.... I showed him the road and told the story...all he did was hug me and say that he was glad I was alright.

He told me that as soon as he heard last night that he was dressed ready to go....and when he heard I was going in the ambulance....that he got down and prayed for a straight few minutes.

Added to the post on Instagram from my other "brother" that I couldn't read without breaking down....

I have some good friends...

I seem to have bad luck at everything I do....but this....

....this was a stroke of good luck. I firmly believe that God saved me from that....and that it's not my time. I have a purpose here.

HW3 01-24-14 11:56 PM

Glad you are ok Red. God does have a way of getting our attention now and then.

swamprat69er 01-25-14 12:00 AM

Looks like you are lucky to be alive. Says something for seatbelts, too.

Gerald 01-25-14 12:42 AM

Buddy! I'm glad you made it,and you did not get any injuries.:yep:

Red October1984 01-25-14 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2167663)
NOPE! 50 mph for 50 miles. S.O.P. You did four days-10 miles each way? you were over! AND never on the front. It takes more time yeah but change out even a bad rear to the front and put the donut on the rear only. When the road is cold, the rubber tire tread never grips as well and if at the top of a hill briefly, the downward weight of the car is lessened at speed( every racer/trucker knows this) and between the cold pavement, less pliant tread and weight reduction, the friction coefficient of the vastly inferior treaded donut is not helping...especially on a front steerer!. If on a rear drive it can cause fish-tailing. AS with a previous post, learn from others mistakes; you got real lucky on this one...and that cool Moisin-Nagant rifle needs some luv BBY...(recheck the music thread!):D

My car was a front wheel drive and the donut was the rear right tire.

I'm not a racer or trucker.

I've been driving for a year and 5 months.

Cut me slack, will ya?

That Mosin Nagant won't get love til my neck and back are 100%

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 2167667)
Buddy! I'm glad you made it,and you did not get any injuries.:yep:

I can't even begin to tell you how much I agree. :yep:

Tribesman 01-25-14 04:11 AM

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Donut doesn't say there's a speed limit on it...and I was told mine was good for 120 miles or something like that.

I'm not in the mood for arguing over criticism. You weren't there. We can't prepare for how we're going to react in a freak accident. Instinct took over and I did my best.

I still picked the right ditch. If I had gone off to the other side I wouldn't be here.

There are so many other things that could've gone wrong. The donut tire did not blow out. It's still intact, however the rim is bent from the roll.
Your car, your tire, you're responsible. It comes with being the driver.
If you are not in the mood for arguing over criticism you shouldn't try to defend yourself.
Trying to defend yourself is futile, too many people have already pointed out the problem and it was of your own making.
No blow out? fine what about all the other warnings you didn't follow, speed control stability brakes....
As someone put it less politely but far more succinctly ...RTFM.
Those toytown tires are only for very limited and very restricted use.

TarJak 01-25-14 04:23 AM

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-new...ce-savers-safe

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When we tried the run with the space-saver on the rear, even expert road tester Owen couldn’t stop the Justy spinning through 180 degrees. We then attempted the lane change at a reckless 65mph: the Subaru made it through, but only an expert driver with several practice runs under his belt could have done it.
You need to understand the limitations of the equipment you are working with BEFORE you use it. Anything else is simply irresponsible to both your own and other's safety. You're lucky the police don't charge you with negligent driving, let alone living through the experience.

Don't come here looking for sympathy, you won't find any. No accidents are freaks and all are preventable. http://www.safetymanscorner.com/cont...re-preventable
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Accidents happen because people did not do his best to prevent it. Most people believe that accidents do happen no matter what we do prevent it. This is the reason why people are not doing their best to avoid and prevent accidents from happening.

Some people also tend to be complacent and over confident for a lot of reasons. “I have been doing this many times and I never made any mistakes why worry now.”

Wolferz 01-25-14 07:33 AM

God does have a plan for you...

Not to kill yourself being ignorant of your iron horses' operating parameters.:03: I gather that the car was purchased used? Was the owners manual still with the car? Did you read it if it was?
Now that you learned the lesson, I'm sure the next time you have a flat tire you'll, at the very least, call AAA to come fix it before proceeding.:timeout: Or park the thing until it's 100% safe to drive it.
It's a pity about the loss of the vehicle but better than losing you.:huh:

We're only taking you to the woodshed for instruction.:03:

Experience is the mother of learning and sometimes she's not the mothering type
So, gratefully take some advice from a guy who has operated many different vehicles over a period of over 40 years and never had a chargeable accident and only one catastrophic accident, by never getting comfortable while behind the wheel. Automobiles weigh @ two tons. Fear them always because once that fear is gone, these things can happen in a splicket. That's half a New York second on my watch. Now get back on your NEXT horse and drive safely.:arrgh!:

Schroeder 01-25-14 10:57 AM

What should also be mentioned is that those emergency tyres might cause ABS and ESP to not work properly anymore as they are calibrated for normal tyres. That can get one in a whole lot of trouble.:-?

Herr-Berbunch 01-25-14 01:00 PM

I was just about to post the same link as TarJak. Tyre depth has nothing to do with it, it creates asymmetry which isn't great. And not wanting to cause an argument - your the driver, you have the responsibility to ensure the car is in tip-top working order.

Lesson learnt, move on and don't repeat - I doubt you will now.

Red October1984 01-25-14 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2167685)
Your car, your tire, you're responsible. It comes with being the driver.
If you are not in the mood for arguing over criticism you shouldn't try to defend yourself.
Trying to defend yourself is futile, too many people have already pointed out the problem and it was of your own making.
No blow out? fine what about all the other warnings you didn't follow, speed control stability brakes....
As someone put it less politely but far more succinctly ...RTFM.
Those toytown tires are only for very limited and very restricted use.

My car didn't come with the "FM" to "R"

I realize that I'm responsible...but nobody told me and nobody was in a hurry to get me a new tire. I don't have a job so I didn't have money to buy one.

We got one. Car wrecked. End of story.

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2167743)
God does have a plan for you...

Not to kill yourself being ignorant of your iron horses' operating parameters.:03: I gather that the car was purchased used? Was the owners manual still with the car? Did you read it if it was?
Now that you learned the lesson, I'm sure the next time you have a flat tire you'll, at the very least, call AAA to come fix it before proceeding.:timeout: Or park the thing until it's 100% safe to drive it.
It's a pity about the loss of the vehicle but better than losing you.:huh:

We're only taking you to the woodshed for instruction.:03:

Experience is the mother of learning and sometimes she's not the mothering type
So, gratefully take some advice from a guy who has operated many different vehicles over a period of over 40 years and never had a chargeable accident and only one catastrophic accident, by never getting comfortable while behind the wheel. Automobiles weigh @ two tons. Fear them always because once that fear is gone, these things can happen in a splicket. That's half a New York second on my watch. Now get back on your NEXT horse and drive safely.:arrgh!:

I won't be getting another horse for a while now...and with all this stuff going on this is a really bad time.

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2167873)
I was just about to post the same link as TarJak. Tyre depth has nothing to do with it, it creates asymmetry which isn't great. And not wanting to cause an argument - your the driver, you have the responsibility to ensure the car is in tip-top working order.

Lesson learnt, move on and don't repeat - I doubt you will now.

:yep:

If I get another Focus....I have 3 good wheels I can use....but we'll probably scrap this one before I get another.


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It wasn't a tire issue...I just swerved too hard for the speed I was going.

From the official report:

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VEH1 SWERVED TO AVOID AN ANIMAL RAN OFF THE ROADWAY AND OVERTURNED
They have the wrong middle initial in the Highway Patrol report...but it wasn't a tire issue on this one. It wouldn't have made a difference if I had a normal tire on there.

nikimcbee 01-25-14 02:45 PM

I forget, what were the road conditions like? Dry, wet, icy?

Red October1984 01-25-14 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 2167906)
I forget, what were the road conditions like? Dry, wet, icy?

It was cold...but it was a normal road. No ice, water, or anything. Just a drop off over a crest of the hill.

nikimcbee 01-25-14 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2167908)
It was cold...but it was a normal road. No ice, water, or anything. Just a drop off over a crest of the hill.


By cold, was it above or below freezing?


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