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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2138063)

Well, ask yourself this, what is the greater disservice? Downplaying your choice of words, or not having been heard at all? If your trying to convey something, you need to entice the reader to read, and in these politically charged times, if you don't choose your words carefully, it doesn't get read. Just, speaking generally of course. On this forum, reputations being what they are, for right or wrong, everyone already has their mind made up on who' who and what's what, so it might not matter how you craft your words anyway. Although I think some folks will applaud you for having done so just the same.

I see your point, I think it when it comes to this forum, most of the vocal ones have a side and will either agree or disagree, although some surprise me and switch sides.I seek no affirmation from others, spreading the message works. Myself and others have been sounding the alarm about Barack Hussein Obama, obamacare, etc for years now and finally, it seems americans and even some of the media are waking up, his 39% approval ratings show this along with ABC news grilling his press boy Carney rather tough as of late.I enjoy, even if it is years late, having others confirm I was right when the undeniable results come out.the IRS has always been a tyrannical thing as has the 16th amendment which predate obama but that agency has become much more of a political tool since he came to power.

Anyways, I see your point, just prefer to called a spade a spade so speak, this is tyranny and calling it anything else is understating the danger.

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2138068)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...65_468x375.jpg

"You are in the court-room of world opinion, and you can answer, yes or no?"

Adlai Stevenson? REALLY? lol

So, where's all the research regarding the illegal means used to pass the income tax laws?:arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2138074)

jury nullification, it is a beautiful thing.

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A lawyer defending a criminal case may zealously advocate for the acquittal of his client using any evidentiary argument for which he has a reasonable good faith basis. Current legal standards strongly disfavor jury nullification and prohibit express exhortations that a jury nullify the law. Accordingly, a lawyer may not, consistent with the rules of professional conduct, expressly urge a jury to disregard the law. Nor may a lawyer disregard a ruling of the tribunal limiting the scope of permissible argument.

http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/eth...opinion320.cfm

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2138099)

http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/eth...opinion320.cfm

Andy, I know this, does not mean can't do it in a roundabout way and get it to work, if attorney is skilled enough, I have witnessed it. gaming the system works.

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2138078)

Myself and others have been sounding the alarm about Barack Hussein Obama, obamacare, etc for years now and finally, it seems americans and even some of the media are waking up, his 39% approval ratings show this along with ABC news grilling his press boy Carney rather tough as of late.

Wow! A new record of sorts ... 47 post before Obama's name came out in the open. :up:

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2138090)

So, where's all the research regarding the illegal means used to pass the income tax laws?:arrgh!:

I did not say illegal, I said unjust. There was some sketchy details in the passage of the 16th Amendment also, but it is the law and thus needs to be repealed.Some Patriots choose not to follow it and more power to them.I feel that I can serve the cause better from outside a jail cell than in so don't have the will/guts to outright break such laws currently.Laws that are harmful are unjust so disobeying them is warranted.Really, if enough people stood up and refused to give their money, we would see a change but I understand why it does not happen but perhaps will one day.

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2138011)

Tarjak, I am involved with this offline and online, I have protested, I have written letters to various officials and absolutely plan to write a book one day in the future on this issue.Once I am practicing, I plan to handle as many of these type of cases as possible, .

Well done you. What response have you gotten? I can only assume you are using different language to suit your audience? Using your usual subsim style is likely to get your correspondence put in the round file pretty quickly.

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Honestly, you don't know me and it's insulting for you to sit here and say all I have done is talk about this on subsim.I share the message as much as possible, so why don't you think before you speak, thanks.

I could care less about whether you feel insulted. I also could care less about what you think of me or my posts here. We both know it doesn't matter. Or at least one of us does.:03:

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Poorly researched? no I looked them up, I see them as victims of a tyrannical government.I coudl care less if they broke this law.They are standing up to an unjust law and now, the wife is being persecuted, even after the judge offered a reasonable compromise but the tyrants at the IRS said NO, because they want to show their power by putting a citizen in jail for daring to challenge them.

:roll:

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2137900)

I'm thinking four to five pages for this one. :yep:

Your estimation is on track.