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reignofdeath 03-26-13 10:39 PM

This picture about made me fall out of my seat laughing. :har:

Take special notice of the BIG RED BUTTON.

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 2031978)
What does this look like to you?:




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...OREA-NORTH.jpg

Kim Jong Un inspects “new” military technology made by unit 1501 of the Korean People’s Army


August 03-26-13 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith (Post 2032029)
This picture about made me fall out of my seat laughing. :har:

Take special notice of the BIG RED BUTTON.

:haha:

But seriously that is a trackball mouse. I don't know if they still even make those things.

Oberon 03-26-13 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2032034)
:haha:

But seriously that is a trackball mouse. I don't know if they still even make those things.

When I first met my wife, she had a computer with a 32MB graphics card and a trackball mouse. Much to my horror.
Needless to say, I helped her see the error of her ways. :03:

Simmy 03-26-13 10:50 PM

Well Daddy made him a Major General before he died and Jr. never spend a day in the military, so anything is possible.
He comes from a long line of Fab leaders. Grand dad started the Korean War, which he couldn't finish even with the help of the Chinese. Daddy made a lot of noise but other than allowing millions of his own people to die of starvation did little else. Like someone else said, every time they need money or food or attention, living in a country cut off from the rest of the world isn't easy, they make a lot of noise to get everyones attention.
They would have a hard time attacking themselves let alone the U.S.

Red October1984 03-26-13 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2032016)
Uh oh, they've discovered the Spectrum ZX


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@RO1984
The only problem with 'finishing the job from 1950' is that by unifying Korea, you break Korea. When the wall came down in 1989, there was jubilation across Europe, except for a few select individuals who were reluctant to see it go, not for any irrational hatred towards Germans, but because they knew that now someone would have to try and knit together two countries that have a development gap of thirty to forty years between each other, together into some sort of cohesive manner.
Even today, twenty four years on, there is still a large gap in sociological well being between the people of West Germany and East Germany, the physical wall may have come down, but there's still a wall there, and it'll be that way for a few years to come.
If North and South Korea unite, it will be thousands of times worse, North Korea makes East Germany look like Coruscant. There will be millions of people putting a massive strain on a Korean economy which has already been hit by the global recession. It would probably collapse overnight and take most of Asia with it. So it would be somewhat of a pyrrhic victory, but would make for good 'Mission accomplished' headlines in Washington, admittedly, because they haven't got to pick up the pieces.

No, sadly for those who want it, a united Korea would be more trouble than it would be worth. The only way to bring the two together would be gradual steps towards economic, technological and social integration with assistance from both America and China. Not very likely to happen.
I see your point there. I'm wondering now if Truman had allowed MacArthur to pursue the Communists would it have been better or just another Vietnam-type Stalemate?

I'm not an expert in world affairs...and i certainly did not think that the Unification of Korea would collapse Asia. Then again, I'm young and stupid. What do I know? :arrgh!:

I don't want to see us fight the DPRK...but at the same time I do. I don't know how I feel about this yet. I just know that the DPRK seem to like (attempting to) talking tough.

Oberon 03-26-13 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2032039)
I see your point there. I'm wondering now if Truman had allowed MacArthur to pursue the Communists would it have been better or just another Vietnam-type Stalemate?

I'm not an expert in world affairs...and i certainly did not think that the Unification of Korea would collapse Asia. Then again, I'm young and stupid. What do I know? :arrgh!:

I don't want to see us fight the DPRK...but at the same time I do. I don't know how I feel about this yet. I just know that the DPRK seem to like (attempting to) talking tough.

You're young, not stupid, when I was your age I didn't consider the whole picture either. In fact it didn't really occur to me until about two or three years ago whilst roleplaying on another forum as the leader of the PRC and having to deal with the DPRK, trying to keep it on a short leash whilst distancing myself from it in the international arena. A balancing act that any circus performer would be proud of.
The DPRK is talking tough because it's about the only option left to it at the moment, it's painted itself into a corner and into a position where it can't back down and lose vital political face (which would be a death sentence for the young Kim) but at the same time if it pushes any harder then it runs the real risk of receiving a big smack in the face from South Korea. When the North shelled that island, Yeonpyeong, I think it was, or something similar, the South retaliated with a barrage that did significant damage to the DPRK artillery and killed dozens, if not low hundreds.
The DPRK is at a stalemate because it has lost the advantage, the only advantage that it has against South Korea is its nuclear weapons, and at the moment they have no way to deliver them. If and when they are able to make the weapons small enough to fit on one of their missiles, then the playing field will change a bit, however the ROK will likely seek to come under the American nuclear umbrella, like Japan, so that any nuclear attack on Seoul will result in an American warhead making a visit to Pyongyang shortly afterwards.

It cannot be ruled out that the North will go the whole hog and launch an invasion of the South, it can never be ruled out because we don't know enough about the leadership and command structure of the North and the people within it. One thing is for certain though, the generation that fought the first Korean war are dying out, and the generations that have lived in relative peace on both sides of the DMZ have forgotten the face of war, and are letting their emotions get the better of them. It's often said that the reason that the US is in South Korea is to stop South Korea invading the North, not the other way around, and from what I've heard, I can't disagree with those who have said it.

Reece 03-27-13 04:33 AM

If Kim Jong Un reads this thread he is going to get awfully peeved! might cause him to push that red button, or at least play with it!!:hmmm:

Herr-Berbunch 03-27-13 05:11 AM

Track ball mice are still made, used by people who can't grip a standard mouse for whatever reason.

And there's sure a lot of switches for his game of Pong.

STEED 03-27-13 06:32 AM

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SEOUL (Reuters) - Reclusive North Korea is to cut the last channel of communications with the South because war could break out at "any moment", it said on Wednesday, days of after warning the United States and South Korea of nuclear attack.
http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-cu...090941398.html

Moving closer or just another..:hmmm:

Rhodes 03-27-13 06:50 AM

The main question is: will they do something before Easter or after Easter?

Red October1984 03-27-13 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhodes (Post 2032119)
The main question is: will they do something before Easter or after Easter?

It's anyone's guess at this point. :hmm2:

gimpy117 03-27-13 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 2031978)
What does this look like to you?:




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...OREA-NORTH.jpg

Kim Jong Un inspects “new” military technology made by unit 1501 of the Korean People’s Army

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mand_flyer.jpg

Rhodes 03-27-13 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 2032159)

still better then this
http://www.technewsdaily.com/images/...jpg?1356027237

Herr-Berbunch 03-27-13 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhodes (Post 2032119)
The main question is: will they do something before Easter or after Easter?

If the rest of the world is like the UK then an attack late Thursday or early Friday would work best, everyone will have gone home and nobody will want to go back until after their time off - Tuesday before you get a full response. :yep:

Synthfg 03-27-13 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhodes (Post 2032119)
The main question is: will they do something before Easter or after Easter?

If they have gone as far as fueling their missiles then they need to do something in the next day or two else they will need to de-fuel and service them which could take weeks


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