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Dan D 04-24-13 04:08 PM

No EU involved, no matter what the rampant anti-EU press in Britain claims:

http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng/..."001-108629"]}

“The European Court of Human Rights” =http://www.echr.coe.int/ECHR/EN/Head...ion+documents/

In English: http://www.echr.coe.int/NR/rdonlyres..._brief_ENG.pdf:

„not to be confused with the European Court of Justice” = EU body

If you think that Britain will leave the European Convention On Human Rights, this will never going to happen.

Russia for example, will be facing a trial to the European Court of Human Rights because of the “Pussy Riot” girls case. Even Russia won’t be leaving the European Convention On Human Rights because of that.

Jimbuna 04-24-13 04:24 PM

So on it goes.

Dan D 04-27-13 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2046331)
So on it goes.

@Jimbuna
I can certainly understand your frustration about the failure to deport that thug.
If I sounded rude, I apologise.

Anyway, new game new luck:
24 April 2013
"UK agrees assistance treaty with Jordan"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22275000

Jimbuna 04-27-13 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D (Post 2047877)
@Jimbuna
I can certainly understand your frustration about the failure to deport that thug.
If I sounded rude, I apologise.

Anyway, new game new luck:
24 April 2013
"UK agrees assistance treaty with Jordan"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22275000

Nothing to apologise for matey :up:

STEED 04-27-13 04:16 PM

That scumbag has laughed all his socks off and has gone shopping for more so he can laugh off his new socks.

STEED 04-27-13 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2046251)
Would it not be more satisfying and cheaper just to kick him in the balls?

Better idea, kick the bloody Judges in the balls to see if they have any.

Tribesman 04-27-13 06:30 PM

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Better idea, kick the bloody Judges in the balls to see if they have any.
it is not the judges who are lacking balls, they have the balls to stand up for the law of the land and central tenets of your legal system despite political interference.
It is the politicians that lack the balls and the brains.

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Anyway, new game new luck:
Same game, same luck.
Though it does bring a new problem. The governments prosecution has conceded in court that torture is endemic and systematic through every level of the jordanian legal system.
There may be a slim chance that they can convince judges that the piece of paper they get is not completely worthless and future Jordanian proceedings will be legit.
But unfortunately once they do that they they face the problem that the entire legal basis for the deportation stems from evidence already submitted by Jordan. That evidence consists of two confessions obtained under torture which implicate qatada, under the new terms May is setting that cannot now be used so Jordan no longer has any legal grounds to request the extradition at all.
Which means the whole 10 year circus will go back round to the start again.

BossMark 04-28-13 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2048073)
Better idea, kick the bloody Judges in the balls to see if they have any.

Yes and deport them as well along with that useless ugly bitch home secretary Theresa bloody May :yep:

Synthfg 04-28-13 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2048234)
Yes and deport them as well along with that useless ugly bitch home secretary Theresa bloody May :yep:

Only if you include every Labour incumbent of the Job bar Straw

So Blunket
Clarke
Reid
Smith
Johnston


All have been frustrated by the courts in attempts to boot this ******* out of the country

But you conveniently forgot that

TBH I'm lost as to why we don't just rescind this guys UK passport and buy him a ticket to any country he can find that will take him

BossMark 04-28-13 03:42 AM

@Synthfg no I didn't forget that
Lets not forget the government which allowed it to stay in our country back in 1994....................... yes it was the Tories under John Major and Michael Howard.

Tribesman 04-28-13 04:54 AM

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TBH I'm lost as to why we don't just rescind this guys UK passport
UK passport? I thought he got residency not citizenship.

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and buy him a ticket to any country he can find that will take him
Well two things there.
He is under UN embargo so is banned from international travel which means a ticket to anywhere is automaticly invalid.
Plus of course who on earth would want him, you saw the problem America had with getting rid of some people from Gitmo. They labelled them the worst of the worst dangerous terrorists in the world then had to pay "sweetners" to countries taking them with assurances that they were the wrong people and were not really dangerous at all.
Britain, Europe and the UN all label qatada as dangerous so who on earth would take him even with a big bribe?

Jimbuna 04-28-13 06:39 AM

Zimbabwe...but he'd need to bring his own picnic hamper.

BossMark 05-05-13 06:27 AM

Abu Qatada's extradition has been blocked over concerns that Jordan will attempt to obtain evidence against him using torture. The Jordanians have made repeated assurances that if they torture him it won't be to gather evidence.

Tribesman 05-05-13 07:49 AM

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Abu Qatada's extradition has been blocked over concerns that Jordan will attempt to obtain evidence against him using torture.
errrrrrr.....no.
The extradition has been blocked because the evidence Jordan has presented to support the extradition was obtained by using torture.

Jimbuna 05-05-13 11:10 AM

I do believe BossMark was making a joke.


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