Hi Tonschk:salute:
- create new GR2 files from scratch (We can not create new .GR2 from schratch,but we can use a .GR2 (as a "shell") and rename all (rename meshes/bones,change the ID parent ...:03:)
- replace geometry with new geometry (objects) (We can do this already)
- add new geometry (objects) (We can do this already,as subsets)
- replace materials (We can do this already)
- add new materials (We can do this already)
- replace textures (We can do this already)
- edit existing items (change position, rotation, scale, properties) (We can do this already)
- add new textures (We can do this already)
- What we need ,this is the ability to create new meshes :yep:

But the bigger work to do ,it's to "repair" ,what the devs have made :nope:
(The devs have make this,as a dog laying his poop ...) :stare:
(I hope the tranlation is good ) :O:

Eg: take a look in room_QR2-> Bowl/book/choppingboard
Not assigned: self-illumination,bump map ,But if you look in texture folder the bump maps are presents... :shifty:

They are many materials not used and textures not "linked" ....
otherwise they have bad made too: the self_illuminaion/AO maps ...(fanciful) and ditto how they have "cut"/assign the elements in meshes

Eg:the enigma knobs are welded with the floor :o

I can continue,but i need 100 posts to write all .... :haha:


Maybe,after,we can write a book for the devs "How to make a good game for Dummies..." :O:

Edit:I need one/two days to make a "job",but after ,i go explain the materials/textures options ...

Apparently most of the features of the " TheDarkWraith tool" are ready, we are lucky I think :woot::yeah::D :up:

I understand you but I think we are fortunate to have The Silent Hunter 5, even if is not a perfect simulator ..... yet :sunny:

Yes,SH5 is a great game (but,not or bad finish...) and the .GR2 format is very impressive with many possibilities :yep: Directx/mentalray render and more... :D

and for TheDarkWraith .GR2 editor, the only things that miss is the ability to create new meshes and new bump "menu" :up:

and again a big MERCI to TheDarkWraith and Privateer :yeah:

Hello BIGREG, thank you for your Big help :yeah:, may be can be useful to add to the first post of this thread the list of duties that this GR2 Editor is able/(not yet able) to do, the list below is just an general idea, I am struggling :/\\!! just to understand the difference between : materials, geometry, textures, bones, meshes, GR2 files, objects,


Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif
When the app is complete you'll be able to:
- create new GR2 files from scratch
- replace geometry with new geometry (objects)
- add new geometry (objects)
- replace materials
- add new materials
- replace textures
- add new textures
- add new bones (you can do this already)
- edit existing items (change position, rotation, scale, properties)
- export meshes (you can do this already)
- import meshes (you can do this already)
- add new meshes

Hello Tonschk :salute:

First .GR2 format is a file that contains the 3D model,bones,materials, and the settings Render (as the .DAT in SH3/4)

- .GR2 can contains one or more models (Eg:the sensors.GR2 with periscops,antennas etc...)
- 3D Model (Eg:the all room_QR1) can contains one or more meshes (Eg:the Hydrophone,radar,capitain bed etc...)
- Meshes can contains one or more subsets (Eg:the different part of the hydrophone :Body,wheel,dials etc...)

- Geometry=Object=Mesh other subset...


- The bones :

Models and meshes are attached on a bone,this one has a name and an ID number that can be "called" or controlled by other files...
Eg :a needle mesh is attached on a bone and for "animated" it, this is the ID bone that is used in .SIM to assign a "controller"->Dials...
The needle mesh don't move ,but the needle bone yes :03:

Bones can to be ,also used for implement other .GR2 models as the antennas,periscops,guns... other to make "waypoints" for the charateres (crew)

Material (i call that "Material Menu"):

Is what that go applicate on a subset and that can contains:

- a texture or more with different fonctions ..
EG: the CapBed :
- Diffuse texture: the "true" texture
- Self-illumination/Ambient occlusion: to make a static shadow (work as a "mask" on the "true" texture)
- Bump: to make a sort of "relief" and work also, as a "mask"

material can be too used for make: a tranparent material (glass:as the lens) and for make lights...

Voila,i hope, i have answer to your question :O:

But,ask me ,if i have wrong explain :know:

Thank you, Are you sure that Geometry, Object and Mesh are exact the same thing ? :timeout:

Yes,of course :yep:

Then the only thing important is that you can all change (apart the number of meshes) :yeah:
But,You can add geometry(objects) as subets :D and subset can have it's own "material" (without special:glass/light)

For "How to" add a subset (object) with a new material ,that is for a future lesson :know:

Note:I think a capitain hat on the capitain bed....

Thank you :yeah:, can you tell me please what are "the settings Render" ?

This is to adjust the material : Opacity,refraction,reflection,shininess,transparen cy ....

What happens with the word "transparency" on the first line ??? -> transparen cy !!! :hmmm:

Retry: This is to adjust the material : Opacity,refraction,reflection,shininess,transparen cy .... :doh:

Re-retry :This is to adjust the material : Opacity,refraction,reflection,shininess,transparen cy .... Argh ! newly written and same :timeout:

I think,i have found a "bug" word !!! transparency .... ARgh !!! here that's work :shifty:

Thank you BIGREG :woot:, I think the Full name of this TheDarkWraith application is GR2 Editor/Viewer :up:

Yes, but I'm a bit lazy :haha:

Request for further information: how to add a bone to the U-Boat?

Hi LemonA :salute:

Great request :yep:

Today I will add a chapter in the Bones Post :up:

Added :salute:

Edit: Actualy ,i do the Tutorial for add an object ( a Capitain Hat on the Bed) :03: