There were number of reasons his sentence was somewhat "mild"
a) His overall good service record in the police force
b) The lady attacked him first
c) He had PTSD and suffered from Hypervigilance

Not defending his actions, but those points give it a better perspective than
"OMG POLICE BRUTALITY!!11 PLZ LIKE ON FB!! LOL!1"

Oh and he can try to get his job back all he wants, it doesn't mean he's going to get it.

I can drop links too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...obic_incidents


We've been here before, we've done this before. Christianity can hardly be trumpeted as the religion of peace, all organised religion is flawed from the base upwards due to humanity, not religion, humanity.

But your links are normal, his links are, what was it ?
.....written by hysterical chimps:rotfl2:

Your entire post was deleted because it was nothing more than spam trolling. You showed several of the pictures more than once, which is spamming. You show a consistent inability to actually debate the issues you bring up, you call your opinion "truth", and you dismiss anything anyone says to the opposite with epithets. You act like a troll, and contribute nothing to the conversation or the forum.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq....ules3_faq_item

Guys, if a moderator removes an image, don't go posting it again. And if you are asked to remove an image, please do so. Posting additional images to thumb your nose at the moderators isn't the thing to do.

Still, at least he's in the brig now and we can enjoy a little time off from "OBAMAWHARRGARBL" posts, and focus on "MUSLIMWHARRGARBL" posts instead. :yep:

Now you know why I am against all of them. I shiver when thinking what relgions do to people, always, when they are given governing power and control over a state.

However, in the West and in the Arab world, the problem today is not violence ciommitted in the name of Christian dogma against Muslims. The problem is violence and discrmination by Muslims against Christians and Jews.

The links btw were meant as a reply to that claim that "90% of Muslims just sit still and want to do their business" and "do not care for dogma and ideology". This claim is wrong, as I know from own experience both in some of their countries where intolerance against Christians and Jews runs high - and is taken and defended as the most natural thing you can imagine. Mainstream Islam is orthodox fundamentalist Islam, not a moderate or ideologically uninterested version. Islam is no moderate but afundamentalist ideology, desiogned to justify conquest. I could go on and refer to - but already did that several times over the past years - to both polls and sociological researches done that showed for Germany and for England high numbers of especially third generation young migrants to be far more religiously orthodox than the first generation grandparents that came to the West 50, 60 years ago, and that huge numbers of the younger advocate and accept violence as a means to enforce Shariah as basis of the state's basis (25-35% as far as I recall), with 40% and more being of the opinion that they are superior to pork-eaters and Western dhimmi and infidel whores, and thus see no wrong in dealing with the native people accordingly, and half of the males and almost half of the females found it okay that women are subordinate to men and that men may use violence against women. And Antisemitism is as old in Islam as Islam is old in years anyway

Integration consequently is a disaster in the West. Non-Muslims for the most integrate well and are willing to do so. Muslim migrants: a disaster. The huge majoirty does not really integrate, and that is no surprise, since the Quran forbids them to conform to Non-Muslims. The pressure of their own group does the rest.

And you guys can think and say and dream what you want: a Muslim is who takes Quran and Shariah as basis for his life, legislation, administration, basis of the state. The Quran gives nothing you can use to argue that you can be in conformity with Islam and thus be a Muslim without taking Quran and Shariah as the omnipotent basis and highest authority, above everything else, also above the land'S laws, the state's constitution.

It is sad, it simply is sad and discouraging to me that people in the West refuse to learn the lessons of history, regarding Islam over the past centuries of attempted conquest of Europe, as well as regarding the nature of totalitarian ideologies. It is as if the Nazis and Chamberlain and Stalin and Soviet dictatorship in Eastgermany never took place. I should feel happy to have no children of my own and to leave nobody behind that must suffer the consequences of European Islamisation. But I am not happy, I am in disbelief about the blindness of people, their unwillingness to open their eyes and see while there still may be some time, and the hopelessness of this desperate hope.

Also, this kind of blind stupidity causes me a sick feeling in my stomach, and a skin irritation that itches, and both together give me a notoriously bad mood.

Learn the lesson of Chamberlain. That was a man who thought because there was WWI short time ago, it cannot be that just again another catastrohe is forming up at the horizon, and while he knew Hitler'S book and while he heared him holding his speeches on radio, he refused to believe what he saw and heared, and he may have thought that Germans do not take it serioulsy, but some did, maybe not even a majoirty, and we know how it ended. Today, some 300 million Chamberlains seem to live in Europe. It cannot be what should not be. Unimaginable, because if it were that bad, then we would need to act! Shock! Awe! Us...? Doing something, needing to correct mistakes made, needing to admit that we were wrong, needing to accept confrpotnation in defence of our freedom, us - needing to fight...??? Isn'T it pure heresy to think that maybe we lack the shine and glory to convince a barbarian conqueror-cult to reform itself? Nooo, it cannot be like that, unimaginable, it all is just irrational phobia by some unknowing haters, and those scpritures and laws thse friendly people constantly yell about, that means nothing to them because it means nothing to us because them and us are basically the same.

Yeah, sure.

It's not just religion though Skybird, the same dark dregs of humanity can be seen throughout time from now back to the dawn of civilization. Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, both used the same form of control that you lay at the feet of the Islamic faith. To denounce every member of that faith as a radical is to denounce every citizen of Germany between the years of 1933-1945 as a Nazi, or every citizen of the Soviet Union between 1917 and 1991 as a Communist. However we both know that it's not as simple as that, nothing in life is as simple as that. There is no black and there is no white.
If you had asked the average Brit in 1940 about the German people he would have condemned them all as Nazis, just as the average American would condemn all Russians as Commies in the 1950s and people condemn all Muslims as radicals. It's the same thing. It's just a mask that people of all faiths, political beliefs, colours, sexes, and ages wear, they hide behind various excuses for their behaviour because no-one wants to admit that deep down we are all the same, and that there is no-one who is greater or inferior to us all, and that there is no real reason for war beyond that which we invent for our own selves.

^Dont bother mate.

Bloody hell, what sort of mindnumbingly dense person could make a statement like that on the eve of 520 european muslims being finally properly buried after being dug up from the mass graves they were thrown in after being murdered because some nuts didn't like muslims.

Which is why people know you are talking rubbish.
Your version of Islam is a fairly modern creation and you claim it is the only true one, yet the version you moan about most as its widespread in europe happens to be a vesion that those fundy nuts say isn't islam.
Your moaning shows you for what you are, completely locked in a shut off unthinking trance where you stick your figers in your ears and reel off long passages of completely contradictory nonsense as though the sheer volume of your nonsense will somehow make it correct.

But you have to confront that hate and bile and show it for what it is.
Skybird is no different from zeewolf in that manner, though perhaps he is worse as you know that somewhere under that crap there is a mind that functions well some of the time

No, no, because to be fair, I can see Skybirds point in some conversations we have, in particular conversations about human nature in general and we both agree on many aspects of, what I believe he once called the 'rat race' or 'rodent theatre'. I have respect for him, controversial views or not, as someone who is very intelligent and does a lot of thinking outside of the box.
I'm not trying to change his point of view on anything, nor call him out as wrong, because if that is what he believes then that is what he believes and I'm not going to condemn people for believing in one thing if I believe in another because then I've become the very thing I've been condemning! :haha:

Fair enough.

Well said but...this does not change some basic realities about some general trends and political views of the world in some cultures.
The fact that western culture has somewhat cured itself from foolishness of the past not necessary means that the same about others.
Not always the other side sees your side the way you describe.
Also not all germans had been Nazis but there was enough nazis to make the difference while the rest just wanted the get on with their lifes
The others had not been real Nazis but looked other way because of fear or benefits the ideology brought with it.

When you talk about Islam you talking about religion deep rooted for hundreds of years.
The choice between modern humanism and old tradition can be very though one...in particular when preached by satellite channels from ME to some immigrants with identity/cultural problems in EU.
So some of the preachers may be some bastards who skew (or not) the religion for their own purpose but still it does not matter very much...does it?

I don't think that EU is about to be overtaken by Islamic hordes or Muslims must be hated but the problem is there....communism and associated terrorists groups had been the plaque of past century while Islam might be of this century but on bigger scale.

So is Islam problematic ideology or not...OK on philosophical level people are... but the problem is that every nutcase can find shelter in radical Islam and do some great deeds in the name of allah....and its cool according to too many preachers.

The issue weather a mosque in the neighborhood or smell of falafel bothers you is another issue but almost autonomous neighborhoods where law is hard to maintain is not.


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I love how that list has its most recent event being WWI and stuff that happened in Stalinist Russia. While most of the rest is stuff that included kicking them out of places they had invaded (if that's persecution then we really own an apology to the Germans) or wars that happened during the dark ages.

In the west we might tell them that we don't like them, or their ideals and tell them to go home.

Ok, first things first, TLAM, remove those links please, Yubba has been brigged for a similar offence and I'd hate to see you suffer the same fate.

Secondly, the list only goes as far as WWI because, as MH has pointed out, we've generally stopped doing that kind of thing, however the entire mess in the Balkans and the Kosovan war has shown that we're not exactly apostles of mercy in Europe.

However, hatred breeds hatred, the people who preach that Muslims should be considered evil are no different to the Muslims who preach that all of the West is evil. We don't have suicide bombers yet, but as Breivik in Norway has shown, the hatred is there and it will find ways to come out.
So, where does it end? Muslims in death camps? Them or us? As always it will be those in the middle of both sides who suffer for the crimes of those committed to their path of violence and hatred.
Dark times lie ahead.