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Skybird 03-21-12 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1858451)
Yeah sure...because if you just sit on your ass you will have terrorist with AQ membership card running around.

War on submarines. War on airplanes. War on tanks. War on rifles.

War on terror.

Terror is a tool. The enemy using it in this case - is an idea. And an idea cannot be simply shot.

But "war on terror" sounds cool and catches voters' attention. It sounds sexy, doesn't it.

MH 03-21-12 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1858459)
But "war on terror" sounds cool and catches voters' attention. It sounds sexy, doesn't it.

Its sound sexy(feel horny already) but its real.
That's way AQ and other organisation depend mostly on the web and "lone wolfs" at this time.
Due to war on terror.

Stealhead 03-21-12 01:31 PM

"Due to war on terror."

I would agree with you on this but the issue now is that AQ is much more decentralized it now is a hydra with many heads and it is much harder to counter hundreds if not thousands of small cells and lone wolf types.They do not even need to go to a training camp now they can just agree with the ideology and find other means to gain what ever skills that they might need.You can learn how do alot of things by reading books or information on the web or viewing videos over the web.


You can read the SAS training manual(I am sure it does not cover everything the current SAS manuals have in them) but it teaches you how conduct a firefight for example if the enemy is behind a vehicle fire at his feet to hit his legs and then slice the pie around the vehicle to finish him off.I read that in a Barnes and Nobel.There are other illegal texts that teach bomb making but they are not very hard to obtain I have seen people with copies of "The Turner Diaries".Who knows the amount of such information that can be found on the web.

Another way to get excellent training is to join a military and become something like infantry or EOD or ideally SF for a few years this was something that became popular with Right Wing extremists in the US perfect lone wolf technique.

MH 03-21-12 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1858487)
"Due to war on terror."

I would agree with you on this but the issue now is that AQ is much more decentralized it now is a hydra with many heads and it is much harder to counter hundreds if not thousands of small cells and lone wolf types.They do not even need to go to a training camp now they can just agree with the ideology and find other means to gain what ever skills that they might need.You can learn how do alot of things by reading books or information on the web or viewing videos over the web.


You can read the SAS training manual(I am sure it does not cover everything the current SAS manuals have in them) but it teaches you how conduct a firefight for example if the enemy is behind a vehicle fire at his feet to hit his legs and then slice the pie around the vehicle to finish him off.I read that in a Barnes and Nobel.There are other illegal texts that teach bomb making but they are not very hard to obtain I have seen people with copies of "The Turner Diaries".Who knows the amount of such information that can be found on the web.

Another way to get excellent training is to join a military and become something like infantry or EOD or ideally SF for a few years this was something that became popular with Right Wing extremists in the US perfect lone wolf technique.

So what is your point?
Let them organise in professional teams to crash few airplanes for example?
Its been too quiet for too long....what terror...its all just a myth right?

The guy in this case had been to Afghanistan.
His facebook page screamed jihad.
Was a member of well known radical french cell.
But...he did nothing illegal according to French law.

BossMark 03-21-12 02:19 PM

Have they caught the murdering SOB yet, :hmmm: and the French should bring the guillotine back for the likes of this low life

Penguin 03-21-12 02:38 PM

I am with Skybird here; "War On Terror" is just a fancy-schmanzy catchphrase invented by Georgie W. and his gang.
To quote my favorite tv series:
"There is no war on drugs" - "Why not?" - "Because a war can actually be won"

If "War On Terror", "Patriot Act" and all this crap wouldn't be connected with a massive cutback on civil liberties and an erosion of Joe Sixpack's freedom - not only in the US, but also here - these buzzwords wouldn't leave such a foul aftertaste.

Not to be confused with the fight against terror organizations which has been going on since decades, long before the "War On Terror" existed. I don't think you'll find anyone on this board who would be against hunting the scumbag down who is still currently hiding in his besieged apartment.

MH 03-21-12 02:50 PM

Ahh...right...Goege.W.Bush and THE WAR ON TERROR.:yawn:

Tribesman 03-21-12 03:02 PM

Face it MH the war on terror is a joke.
3 people in a row have made that very valid point but you cannot even see it.

MH 03-21-12 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1858584)
Face it MH the war on terror is a joke.
3 people in a row have made that very valid point but you cannot even see it.

:hmmm:

O.K.

Schroeder 03-21-12 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 1858527)
Have they caught the murdering SOB yet, :hmmm: and the French should bring the guillotine back for the likes of this low life

Nope, that would make him a martyr and inspire more idiots. Let him be forgotten in a tiny cell until his existence ends naturally.

mookiemookie 03-21-12 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1858559)
I am with Skybird here; "War On Terror" is just a fancy-schmanzy catchphrase invented by Georgie W. and his gang.
To quote my favorite tv series:
"There is no war on drugs" - "Why not?" - "Because a war can actually be won"

If "War On Terror", "Patriot Act" and all this crap wouldn't be connected with a massive cutback on civil liberties and an erosion of Joe Sixpack's freedom - not only in the US, but also here - these buzzwords wouldn't leave such a foul aftertaste.

Not to be confused with the fight against terror organizations which has been going on since decades, long before the "War On Terror" existed. I don't think you'll find anyone on this board who would be against hunting the scumbag down who is still currently hiding in his besieged apartment.

Bravo, sir. :Kaleun_Applaud:

nikimcbee 03-21-12 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1858590)
Nope, that would make him a martyr and inspire more idiots. Let him be forgotten in a tiny cell until his existence ends naturally.

Here's the McBee plan;

Videotape the dude accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savio(u)r and renouncing mohammad/islam and burning the koran.

Release video on the youtubez.

Send terrorist to Saudia Arabia with a link to the video.

Problem takes care of itself.

No martyrs. Just a heretic being "taken care of".

Sadly, the family won't get their kids back.

Skybird 03-21-12 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MH (Post 1858465)
Its sound sexy(feel horny already) but its real.
That's way AQ and other organisation depend mostly on the web and "lone wolfs" at this time.
Due to war on terror.

To say there is a war on terror is like saying the war against the Third Reich in fact was a war against submarinism. Tankism. Airplaneism. Terror is a weapon, like a tank or a fighter or a submarine is. You do not wage war against weapons. You wage war against the sides and factions using them.

This is why the term "war on terror" makes no sense, and never made sense.

What the war on terror is, is a war against original Islam that - due to lacking ordinary military power - uses terror and the asymmetrical warfare setting as it's weapon of choice, amongst some others.

Jimbuna 03-21-12 03:41 PM

Still no end....can't go on very much longer because of sleep depravation or the authorities running out of patience.

I wonder if he'll go out in a blaze of glory or take his own life.

Neither I suspect...the authorities will probably run out of patience.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/17455224

MH 03-21-12 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1858612)
What the war on terror is, is a war against original Islam that - due to lacking ordinary military power - uses terror and the asymmetrical warfare setting as it's weapon of choice, amongst some others.


War on terror is seemingly the never ending prevention by various means...really simple in definition complex by execution.

You would need at least The Third Reich to wage war against Islam though:O:.


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